F1 - Can this become the shortcourse class of onroad?
10-24-2011, 09:17 PM
#286
Again, who want's to get it going? I will help all I can but I can't do it alone. 4 more people are needed and the odd number will stop any tied decisions. It can't be that hard to organize a basic plan and build from there. You guys know already that I am for two classes. Silvercan and one other maybe 21.5 or 17.5. Tires? Later. Let's work on the basics like chassis. Since all cars have been based on the F103 why worry about a few milimeters front or rear until a common spec can be had for all of them. Now, who want's to go from here? Don't be bashful. It's all for fun anyway right?
10-24-2011, 09:27 PM
#287
Which 104 are you buying? It maybe more than those others that you mentioned, but not that much more.
One of the guys here went to rcmart and was about to hit the button for a3racing F109 when they were $99 and thought he might as well get another until something breaks and he won't have the part on hand. $200+shipping and he has been making laps at every race. Now they are a little more and still worth the price to buy 2 of them.
One of the guys here went to rcmart and was about to hit the button for a3racing F109 when they were $99 and thought he might as well get another until something breaks and he won't have the part on hand. $200+shipping and he has been making laps at every race. Now they are a little more and still worth the price to buy 2 of them.
10-24-2011, 11:59 PM
#288
Again, who want's to get it going? I will help all I can but I can't do it alone. 4 more people are needed and the odd number will stop any tied decisions. It can't be that hard to organize a basic plan and build from there. You guys know already that I am for two classes. Silvercan and one other maybe 21.5 or 17.5. Tires? Later. Let's work on the basics like chassis. Since all cars have been based on the F103 why worry about a few milimeters front or rear until a common spec can be had for all of them. Now, who want's to go from here? Don't be bashful. It's all for fun anyway right?
Good luck!!
I vote RobK and BP Shadow.
10-25-2011, 12:01 AM
#289
"The" Dasmopar
F104 Pro
Hobby Stop West raceway, Toledo Oh.
F104 Pro
Hobby Stop West raceway, Toledo Oh.
10-25-2011, 07:26 AM
#290
It won't be me for many reasons. 1st off I don't know much about F1 thus far and 2nd you and I don't see eye to eye much of anything. lol I hope you do get 4 more and get a uniform set of rules going wether I agree with them or not.
Good luck!!
I vote RobK and BP Shadow.
Good luck!!
I vote RobK and BP Shadow.
Ok I'll bite, and if Robs up for it he probably knows the most of all of us. I have been doing F1 since 1989, but I have only really ever run Tamiya, with a brief stop in Kyoshoville.
I think we should get 2 from each region, maybe Lightfoot and Cuda to rep the left coast, me and Rob for the rustbelt, and then we need reps for the South and the right coast.
My rules wish list is pretty simple
1- Purpose designed F1 chassis (no Pro 10 pan car conversions) 200mm OAW MAX
2- Rubber tire only, maybe limited to 3 or 4 tire makes
3- 2S 21.5 brushless or TCS spec silvercan Johnson Unboosted and zero timing for brushless.
4- F1 representative paintjobs!!!! Either a replica of a past or present F1 scheme OR a fictitious scheme that could be believable as an F1 car. NO tribal flamed buggy schemes.
5- Fastlap qualifying and 15 or 20 minute mains with pitstops if doable at the race venue.
10-25-2011, 10:32 AM
#293
Gee thanks Mopar
Ok I'll bite, and if Robs up for it he probably knows the most of all of us. I have been doing F1 since 1989, but I have only really ever run Tamiya, with a brief stop in Kyoshoville.
I think we should get 2 from each region, maybe Lightfoot and Cuda to rep the left coast, me and Rob for the rustbelt, and then we need reps for the South and the right coast.
My rules wish list is pretty simple
1- Purpose designed F1 chassis (no Pro 10 pan car conversions) 200mm OAW MAX
2- Rubber tire only, maybe limited to 3 or 4 tire makes
3- 2S 21.5 brushless or TCS spec silvercan Johnson Unboosted and zero timing for brushless.
4- F1 representative paintjobs!!!! Either a replica of a past or present F1 scheme OR a fictitious scheme that could be believable as an F1 car. NO tribal flamed buggy schemes.
5- Fastlap qualifying and 15 or 20 minute mains with pitstops if doable at the race venue.
Ok I'll bite, and if Robs up for it he probably knows the most of all of us. I have been doing F1 since 1989, but I have only really ever run Tamiya, with a brief stop in Kyoshoville.
I think we should get 2 from each region, maybe Lightfoot and Cuda to rep the left coast, me and Rob for the rustbelt, and then we need reps for the South and the right coast.
My rules wish list is pretty simple
1- Purpose designed F1 chassis (no Pro 10 pan car conversions) 200mm OAW MAX
2- Rubber tire only, maybe limited to 3 or 4 tire makes
3- 2S 21.5 brushless or TCS spec silvercan Johnson Unboosted and zero timing for brushless.
4- F1 representative paintjobs!!!! Either a replica of a past or present F1 scheme OR a fictitious scheme that could be believable as an F1 car. NO tribal flamed buggy schemes.
5- Fastlap qualifying and 15 or 20 minute mains with pitstops if doable at the race venue.
10-25-2011, 10:36 AM
#294
Gee thanks Mopar
Ok I'll bite, and if Robs up for it he probably knows the most of all of us. I have been doing F1 since 1989, but I have only really ever run Tamiya, with a brief stop in Kyoshoville.
I think we should get 2 from each region, maybe Lightfoot and Cuda to rep the left coast, me and Rob for the rustbelt, and then we need reps for the South and the right coast.
My rules wish list is pretty simple
1- Purpose designed F1 chassis (no Pro 10 pan car conversions) 200mm OAW MAX
2- Rubber tire only, maybe limited to 3 or 4 tire makes
3- 2S 21.5 brushless or TCS spec silvercan Johnson Unboosted and zero timing for brushless.
4- F1 representative paintjobs!!!! Either a replica of a past or present F1 scheme OR a fictitious scheme that could be believable as an F1 car. NO tribal flamed buggy schemes.
5- Fastlap qualifying and 15 or 20 minute mains with pitstops if doable at the race venue.
Ok I'll bite, and if Robs up for it he probably knows the most of all of us. I have been doing F1 since 1989, but I have only really ever run Tamiya, with a brief stop in Kyoshoville.
I think we should get 2 from each region, maybe Lightfoot and Cuda to rep the left coast, me and Rob for the rustbelt, and then we need reps for the South and the right coast.
My rules wish list is pretty simple
1- Purpose designed F1 chassis (no Pro 10 pan car conversions) 200mm OAW MAX
2- Rubber tire only, maybe limited to 3 or 4 tire makes
3- 2S 21.5 brushless or TCS spec silvercan Johnson Unboosted and zero timing for brushless.
4- F1 representative paintjobs!!!! Either a replica of a past or present F1 scheme OR a fictitious scheme that could be believable as an F1 car. NO tribal flamed buggy schemes.
5- Fastlap qualifying and 15 or 20 minute mains with pitstops if doable at the race venue.
I tend to follow or get the hell out of the way.
As far as West Coast goes, you gotta admit that the Lightfoot and 240Z collaboration has done an amazing job rockin the F1 world with the Ultimate F1 efforts with Regular and Winter Series programs and Lightfoots incredible website. http://uf1series.com/index.html
If you haven't been there you need to check it out!
Rules, regulations, results, photo galleries as well as UF1 T shirt sales that help pay for an awesome photo album as a prize for the top 10 finishers of the series although I hear this will be the last one.
I think the rules here are simple and effective and history has proven this as there have been no concerns with cheating or "pushing" the boundaries to speak of.
The format cannot be topped, single fast lap qualifiers, triple mains for points based on final times/laps regardless of which main you happen to qualify for.
Another key to UF1 success has to be the fact that track owners have welcomed UF1 to also be run on "Off" days which is a great way to have our unique rules implemented as well as bringing an average of around 15 paid race entries to their place on a non race day.
Spectators get a kick out of the Real F1 type race format and we get noobs jumping in as a result.
10-25-2011, 03:55 PM
#295
Tech Fanatic
Personally I like the rules package that Shadow outlined in his post, except I go along with UF1 with their rule about 190mm maximum width. Shadow's rule package is true to the spirit of a "true scale" F1 series.
One question though Shadow: where does the new 3Racing FGX car fit in, as it is not a pan car solid axle design? This is the car I am currently planning on getting; at least until Tamiya inevitably develops their own version of the FGX.
Shadow, will you be getting an FGX and doing one of your awesome paint and decal jobs on the FGX body?
One question though Shadow: where does the new 3Racing FGX car fit in, as it is not a pan car solid axle design? This is the car I am currently planning on getting; at least until Tamiya inevitably develops their own version of the FGX.
Shadow, will you be getting an FGX and doing one of your awesome paint and decal jobs on the FGX body?
10-25-2011, 07:13 PM
#296
It won't be me for many reasons. 1st off I don't know much about F1 thus far and 2nd you and I don't see eye to eye much of anything. lol I hope you do get 4 more and get a uniform set of rules going wether I agree with them or not.
Good luck!!
I vote RobK and BP Shadow.
Good luck!!
I vote RobK and BP Shadow.
If robk and bpshadow wants it then that's a good start. I just want to race.
10-25-2011, 07:33 PM
#297
I posted this in the wrong thread earlier 
This would be awesome to get F1 going strong. And with real F1 returning to the US next year and twice in 2013 (Texas AND New York, look it up 
) The momentum can continue
by the way, since the earlier post I erroneously dropped in wrong thread, Ive since found the ROAR rules, and it turns out that we pretty much came up with them for our local class
) The momentum can continueby the way, since the earlier post I erroneously dropped in wrong thread, Ive since found the ROAR rules, and it turns out that we pretty much came up with them for our local class
10-25-2011, 07:35 PM
#298
10-25-2011, 08:51 PM
#299
Personally I like the rules package that Shadow outlined in his post, except I go along with UF1 with their rule about 190mm maximum width. Shadow's rule package is true to the spirit of a "true scale" F1 series.
One question though Shadow: where does the new 3Racing FGX car fit in, as it is not a pan car solid axle design? This is the car I am currently planning on getting; at least until Tamiya inevitably develops their own version of the FGX.
Shadow, will you be getting an FGX and doing one of your awesome paint and decal jobs on the FGX body?
One question though Shadow: where does the new 3Racing FGX car fit in, as it is not a pan car solid axle design? This is the car I am currently planning on getting; at least until Tamiya inevitably develops their own version of the FGX.
Shadow, will you be getting an FGX and doing one of your awesome paint and decal jobs on the FGX body?
As far as where the car fits, it is a purpose designed F1 chassis, so I say run it, thats why I am not so hung up on this width issue.
10-25-2011, 09:02 PM
#300
To be a True F1 purist, we need No pan car conversions , no rear solid axles !!! Stop looking at the front end only and concentrate on the whole car: rear independent suspensions only !!! Get a FGX or Nothing !!! If it's not a fgx , it's pan car based ok !!!!!! So no more F103's, F104's, F109's : they are all pan car based buddy !!!