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Old 09-04-2011, 02:17 AM
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someone knows where to find informations on old ABC 1/12th cars?
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someone knows where to find informations on old ABC 1/12th cars?
What do you want to know? I have a few of them. Have you got one?
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No I donīt have one. Iīm just busy with restoring a Delta Phaser (the first one).

Someone did show me a picture from a ABC 1/12th car what I didnīt saw before. Itīs named Carrera ...... anything. It looks a little like the FW121 at this website http://www.rc-car-museum.de/1_12_Mod...ra_fw_121.html but itīs not the same.
From what I remember the frontend arms had different length the chassis and radioplate looked more lightweight and had different shape but the rear pod assembly was very similar if not the same. Maybe somewhat of a newer version.
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Speaking of old bodies for 1/12th what brand/type was run about 1979 - 1982 at US races? Iīm looking for a body for my Phaser.

As for me I was running AYK cars that time with their own bodies and the first US type body I bought then was the Bolink Schkee for my Schumacher XL what I did run after the AYK RX2000.
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Originally Posted by V12
No I donīt have one. Iīm just busy with restoring a Delta Phaser (the first one).

Someone did show me a picture from a ABC 1/12th car what I didnīt saw before. Itīs named Carrera ...... anything. It looks a little like the FW121 at this website http://www.rc-car-museum.de/1_12_Mod...ra_fw_121.html but itīs not the same.
From what I remember the frontend arms had different length the chassis and radioplate looked more lightweight and had different shape but the rear pod assembly was very similar if not the same. Maybe somewhat of a newer version.
Those are great pictures!

I have read this whole thread and still not seen The complete agitator car that lucas garnu did. I've seen the front end on other cars but not original production car with actuation system in rear

Any 12th pics out there of lucas's original ideas and work

I remember he had interesting laugh and he was very nice person

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Originally Posted by V12
No I donīt have one. Iīm just busy with restoring a Delta Phaser (the first one).

Someone did show me a picture from a ABC 1/12th car what I didnīt saw before. Itīs named Carrera ...... anything. It looks a little like the FW121 at this website http://www.rc-car-museum.de/1_12_Mod...ra_fw_121.html but itīs not the same.
From what I remember the frontend arms had different length the chassis and radioplate looked more lightweight and had different shape but the rear pod assembly was very similar if not the same. Maybe somewhat of a newer version.
They most likely got the name wrong as older Carrera`s have a front beam.
You should be able to spot what you are looking for here.

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/sig_member.asp?id=150
Let me know if you need more help I sort of collect ABC cars.
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Originally Posted by V12
Speaking of old bodies for 1/12th what brand/type was run about 1979 - 1982 at US races? Iīm looking for a body for my Phaser.

As for me I was running AYK cars that time with their own bodies and the first US type body I bought then was the Bolink Schkee for my Schumacher XL what I did run after the AYK RX2000.
Associated TOJ with Parma Osella a distant second.
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I mean older bodies before or beside the TOJ.
Iīm just restoring an old 1/12th car from 1979-1980 and look for a matching body. The TOJ is not the right timeframe for this car in my opinion.
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The bodies I remember from that era was the Schkee, TOJ, Lola, Ferrari 512M, Porsche 917 and Ligier GT.
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Bought my first car in '80 or '81, a 12E, first one at my club with the fiberglass radio tray. It had a TOJ. Over the next 2-3 years I had an MRP, then got a Delta Super Phaser right after they came out. I ran TOJs on all of them, but I also ran MRP TOJ, McAlister RM-1, and MRP Kremer CK-5. The RM-1 was popular in So-Cal with the non-TOJ group. If you're going older than that, Associated and Bolink both made Ferrari 312Ps that were popular.
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Originally Posted by V12
I mean older bodies before or beside the TOJ.
Iīm just restoring an old 1/12th car from 1979-1980 and look for a matching body. The TOJ is not the right timeframe for this car in my opinion.
Besides the TOJ, which was used in that time frame. The Associated used to come with a Ferrari sedan. The MRPs ran lots of C-100s and their TOJ and the VDS-1. The Lola GTP car was popular as well.
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Didnīt know the TOJ was released that early but in our area the TOJ was run much later.

OK got parts for a first generation Phaser and try to complete this now. Also looking for a body for this one. I heard Arturo Carbonell was using a Schkee so maybe going with this one.
Someone has pictures from Arturos cars? Also looking for the paint scheme. Just found single 1/8th pictures until now.

As for the old bodies which brand was making the C-100? Just MRP or some other also? Are there any C-100 pictures?

Some of the Jerobee/MRP bodies what look really good in my opinion are the Alfa Sport and CAC Can Am. Found them in old catalogue, where these used at races also?
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Originally Posted by V12
Didnīt know the TOJ was released that early but in our area the TOJ was run much later.

OK got parts for a first generation Phaser and try to complete this now. Also looking for a body for this one. I heard Arturo Carbonell was using a Schkee so maybe going with this one.
Someone has pictures from Arturos cars? Also looking for the paint scheme. Just found single 1/8th pictures until now.

As for the old bodies which brand was making the C-100? Just MRP or some other also? Are there any C-100 pictures?

Some of the Jerobee/MRP bodies what look really good in my opinion are the Alfa Sport and CAC Can Am. Found them in old catalogue, where these used at races also?
MRP had the only C100 I remember. I ran a ton of those. It was awesome in stock because it had so little drag compared to the TOJ's.
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Originally Posted by V12
OK got parts for a first generation Phaser and try to complete this now. Also looking for a body for this one. I heard Arturo Carbonell was using a Schkee so maybe going with this one.
I remember seeing photos of Kent Clausen's and Arturo Carbonell's Worlds winning cars in an R/C magazine back in the day. I'm pretty sure Art was running the TOJ at the 1982 worlds.

Gotta be photos somewhere.
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I remember a few people ran the CAC, but I don't remember the Alfa being used much.
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