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Old 03-18-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by javacrazy
Just got a 2nd hand TC4 with plastic chassis. I have a few questions about this car.
o) Is this car as competitive as the TC4 FT with carbon fiber?

o) What are the easy-to-break parts? (I want to stock up parts in case my LHS doesn't support it. My LHS will support TC5 for sure but not sure about TC4)

o) What's the recommended gearing for Orion vortex 17.5 brushless / GTB?
I installed a 27T pinion with the standard spur?


o) Any tips or tricks for on-road racing appreciated. Thanks.
If your LHS can get TC5 they should be able to get TC4 it really depends on their supplier, I'm still able to order parts from Trackside RC but I'm yet to do so.
The parts you want to stock up on would be the wishbones and wheel hubs at a minimum. I dunno what the plastictub TC4 is like so I can't comment on that.
I think gearing for a 17.5 at my local track is anywhere between 5.2 and 4.5 FDR. I'm currently gear for 27 at 5.7 and still go taller. But I race on a track that 1/5 races on so for me its a large highspeed track. I think one guy is trying gear a xray with 17.5 to 4.8. Personally I would just speak to the guys at your local track.

I've only raced a TT01 and a FT TC4, at a guess it will be better then a TT01 (TT01s one suck) but not quite as a good as a FT TC4
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by javacrazy
Just got a 2nd hand TC4 with plastic chassis. I have a few questions about this car.
o) Is this car as competitive as the TC4 FT with carbon fiber?
Yes, I raced with the composite chassis for awhile, and it's as competitive as the FT TC4 and most other cars.

o) What are the easy-to-break parts? (I want to stock up parts in case my LHS doesn't support it. My LHS will support TC5 for sure but not sure about TC4)
The arms mainly .ie caster blocks, turning blocks, turnbuckels ect.

o) What's the recommended gearing for Orion vortex 17.5 brushless / GTB?
I installed a 27T pinion with the standard spur?
I don't know anything about the Orion vortex, but I gear my Novak 17.5 SS to 80/50. Brushless motors have a lot of torque, so you need to gear it high to make use of it.


o) Any tips or tricks for on-road racing appreciated. Thanks.
Stick to the fast guys. Pick their brains, and don't take it all to hart.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:59 PM
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I'm setting up a car (TC4 FT with CF Chassis) for friend and was looking for a good set up. He is running rubber on carpet track is 170 X 40 with medium bite.
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So I broke a shock tower and it looks like I have 3 options.

Composite, carbon, and carbon fiber.

Any real advantage or disadvantage between the 3?

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Old 03-21-2009, 09:48 AM
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Composite is cheaper to replace, but carbon fiber is more flexible.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:45 PM
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Is your car a factory team TC4 or just a tub chassis TC4?

The Composite and the Carbon are a single peice shock tower, exactly the same except for the material they are made of (composite or carbon). These fit the standard TC4 Team Car, and the RTR...the tub chassis cars.

The Factory Team TC4 uses a 2-peice carbon fibre tower. and I believe you have to buy the pieces separately.

I'm not sure if you can switch the shock towers between the cars or not.

General rule for Composite vs Carbon or Carbon Fibre is Composite is cheaper and has more flex. Carbon or Carbon Fibre more expensive and less flex. If you're not racing, I'd stick with the Composite tower (tub car).

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Old 03-22-2009, 04:46 PM
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hey i just got a tc4 a few weeks ago and i want to start racing but i want to upgrade to either lipo or brushless set-up. But im on a tight budget so im trying to choose what would be the best way to go first and what would be faster. Lipo and charger or brushless and esc.
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If you've got good NiMh's I would go for the brushless first, if you don't go for the LiPo. Having a car that can run rock solid for the race.
When you get LiPo you will have to weight up the car, I've got a 20g wheel weight over the front diff and two layers of lead sheet in the battery holder. It seems to balanced the car quite well.
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Old 03-22-2009, 08:27 PM
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yeah, i dont have the best batteries, or the equipment to equalize my packs and what not. Also how much run time could i expect from a 5000mah lipo running a 19t of 13.5t motor
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:58 AM
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buy the brushless first. Most modern Brushless systems have a Lipo cut-off. So getting a lipo first would mean you'ed have to be vary careful not to completely drain them like you do with NiMh's.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:50 PM
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oh ok well i was planning on get the Novak Cut Off, since i seen some brushless esc that still dont have the lipo cut off.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXPGM8&P=ML

has anyone used one of these
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I know that Novak and Tekin both lipo cut-offs built into the ESC. But first you should see what other racers are using, and what your shop supplys. Just make sure you get one with the features you want, preferably one with Lipo and thermal cut-offs.
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Originally Posted by Foxxrocket
I know that Novak and Tekin both lipo cut-offs built into the ESC. But first you should see what other racers are using, and what your shop supplys. Just make sure you get one with the features you want, preferably one with Lipo and thermal cut-offs.
So does the LRP Sphare, not too sure about the other LRP ESC's. I've only used the LRP Sphare and the Teu-101. But I would say that one with LiPo and thermal cut-off would be must.
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oh ok, well i think imma go with the Novak Havoc esc and 13.5 motor, seem like an entry level system. Does anyone know thing about it

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXWLW9&P=0
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I am looking for and wanting to buy a roller tc4, it doesnt even have to have tires. I will be putting in my own electronics.

There are two types of tc4 chassis and i really dont care which one. I would prefer that the car be carpet driven only, but if it is good condition nonetheless, i will concider it.

If anyone still reads this thread and is wanting to get rid of a Roller ONLY...hit me up

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