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Old 09-17-2010, 02:05 PM   #166
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Bring back wiper arm – resistor speed controls! Done.
Now we're talking.
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:49 PM   #167
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Bring back wiper arm – resistor speed controls! Done.
Yeah.. I'm sure that would be a hyper competitive class.... hahahahahahaah
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:55 PM   #168
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You must of been getting weird Sanyos.....It went 1200 SC, 1200 SCR, 1400 SCR, 1700 SCE, and 1700 SCRC......I don't remember ever seeing a 1200 SCE or a 1500 SCRC.......I did take a break for a about 2 years (92-94) so maybe I missed them....

And 8 tracks are making a comeback! At bumbershoot, people were selling them....

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Old 09-17-2010, 03:19 PM   #169
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You must of been getting weird Sanyos.....It went 1200 SC, 1200 SCR, 1400 SCR, 1700 SCE, and 1700 SCRC......I don't remember ever seeing a 1200 SCE or a 1500 SCRC.......I did take a break for a about 2 years (92-94) so maybe I missed them....

And 8 tracks are making a comeback! At bumbershoot, people were selling them....

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Wasn't there a 1400 sce too? I know there were 1400kr's (you can still get them) but they weren't so good. No punch.
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There was a 1500 sce that came after the 1700 sce.......

Not sure on the KR cells.....Sanyo continued for years to update those cells for cheaper batteries...

I just know in racing........we went in the order I posted pretty much, though the 1700 SCE I think came out before the 1400 scr.....SCE's were pieces of crap. The failed often and you could only really charge them once every few days......some guys did it once a week!

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Old 09-17-2010, 05:28 PM   #171
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And 8 tracks are making a comeback! At bumbershoot, people were selling them....Later EddieO
I'm old enough to remember 4 track!!
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Old 09-17-2010, 06:52 PM   #172
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Let's just wait until Tamiya drops the 540 for something new and slower. Then we can race again.
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Two things reduce the number of people in RC - recessions and new technology. Problem here is we have both together.

People want to go back to old technology because they see it as stable. BR wasn't stable at the time BL came in. There were new motors every couple of months, new cells every six months. Orion and and Checkpoint were on the verge of having new designs that were getting to be developed enough to create a whole new motor performance, and people in the UK were experimenting with rare-earth magnets that would have changed the game.

Instead of all that we got Novak and the BL motor. Everybody pestered the National Associations to adopt the motors - "easy maintenance, level playing field, cheaper in the long run..." - so they did. Some people said it was too much too soon and that we'd all have to buy more kit and run around with laptops in our pit gear. We were shouted down.

What we knew was that never in the history of the World has any technology come in fully developed. It comes in under-developed, and the people that pay for development are customers - us. So, we now have a technology that is un-developed, and development is going ahead fast. That means paying to keep up. That means people will leave as they don't like the way development goes or they can't afford to keep up.

This will all settle down because the Laws of Physics say so; there is only so much timing you can throw at a motor! However, in the meantime, people will leave, or not join the hobby because we are in a recession and technology is moving fast. Once the technology settles (18 months away IMHO) people will come back.

As for going back to brushed? If it's because they think it's stable, they're wrong. If it's because they think things are too fast, then the cure isn't in the motors, it's in the cells. Go to LiFe now (reduction of a volt-ish) and cars will automatically be slower. The problem with speed is in the cells, not the speedos. If you don't believe me, go and drive a 12th 17.5 car - easy to drive, huge fun to race with and cheap to own. Back to brushed - not a good idea...

Slower class for beginners? 21.5 with any speedo you like and 6.6v LiFe cells - simples!
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OMG brushed racing was SOooooo time consuming and expensive! Between every race...rebuilding motors, discharging battery packs. With lipo, and brushless I get WAYYYyyyy more practice time and I actually have time to worry about my chassis set up. To hell with brushed motors, those are ancient.
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:15 AM   #177
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theres an easy solution to this, we run 13.5 an 19 turn motors together, we have found that there about equal. none of are guys race the advance timing esc's. if we have a guy that shows up with a 27 turn we let him run it an still time him. But most of the guys that show can handle the 19 turn or 13.5. I don't believe in cutting comms an replacing brushes at the race track they should last for a full day of racing an then do it at home in my spare time. Just what i think.
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theres an easy solution to this, we run 13.5 an 19 turn motors together, we have found that there about equal. none of are guys race the advance timing esc's.
I will crush a zero boost 13.5 with a 19t. I was winning in boosted 10.5 with a 19t until 203 came out. Now that we are ALL running boosted 10.5, the power levels are very even.
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