TryHard

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The thing to remember is that if you adjust the width with shims and so on, you also change the offset of the wheels to the hub.. so it's not quite as simple.

It does depend on how much toe you want to take out of the car... if it's a full degree, it's quite easy (go 1X/1D for 2°). If you only want to adjust the toe a little, then just try a 1D block on the rear, and leave everything else as is. That will give 2.5°.

If I'm adjusting toe, I'll do the rear block first, then the front. Thats mainly because the rear block is easier to change!

HiH
Ed

Dane

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I'm so confused. 1X/1D has 2° of toe out according to the chart on your site. On the other side, 1XA/1D = 2.5° toe out? Why couldn't I just keep my 1XA front block and just change the rear accordingly?

Also, what is the typical range for rear and front track widths? I'm using Jilles 2010 Snowbirds setup if that helps...

TryHard

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Hi Dane,

If you go 1X/1D you keep the car the same width as the 1XA/1E combo, but with a degree less toe. Think of it of taking half a degree out of each end.
If you went to a 1XA/1C combo (again, 2° toe), the rear track would be about (I think!) 1mm or so narrower than the 1XA/1E, which can also affect how the car grips and rotates at the rear (I always found a narrower rear end to be more unstable on entry, quick rotation middle, but then push more on exit)

My personal preference would be to try and keep it the same as the kit settings, but if you have the time, could be worth testing which suits you better

HiH
Ed

chrisk

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Ran my 417 for the first time last night and was happy with its first outing.

A little loose mid or exit on slow corners but fast sweepers were great.

I did notice on full lock it was very chattery in the front shafts, has anybody else noticed this?

Pro10noob

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All cars that i have driven using a spool up front are chattery when on full lock.
When using a one way or diff you don't have it.
Nature of the design i believe.

regards Roy

Nilks

As mentioned, all cars with spool (unless they use something like the Xray ECS driveshafts) will have chatter. But I think the chatter is much less in the Tamiya, compared to Xray with standard driveshafts.

chrisk

iTrader: (32)

thanks for the feedback about the shafts, just didnt notice it on my 416, thats why i asked

but very happy with its first outing, just have to play with setup a little compared to my 416.

VooDooPH

iTrader: (18)

intersting bits from 3Racing XI... wondering if they'll fit in the 417...

roll center adjusters...


vertical motor mount...

CraigM

iTrader: (34)

That's interesting, on the old car I always found X looser through the whole corner than XA regardless of the rear block

CL

iTrader: (34)

How about these:

http://store.hkshobby.com/product_in...oducts_id=8992

I think the stock plastic blades are too brittle. They snapped when you hit something hard.

Qatmix

I have been getting mine to work as a foam car indoors, I wont lie its been a little bit of a struggle and I got close to thinking about either getting a 3.5mm chassis made from Fibrelyte or just selling it. I cant believe how soft the car is!

However I dont give up easily, and its really starting to get there now, this week the car was amazing and it was only my thumbs that were letting me down from winning every heat.

I have a few more tweaks, and then I should be able to post a foam indoor set-up.

Nilks

Hi guys,

Quick question. I know on the 416 that it was necessary to use shims in between the upper and lower bulkheads. Is it still necessary in the 417? I have done it so far, but they are a pain in the butt

TryHard

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To be honest, I don't think they are. I started out using them on the 7, but then have stopped, and I can still move the bearing holder a little. I guess the tolerances between the upper and lower were revised slightly.

HiH
Ed

m@_c

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Anyone know where the gear diff version of the kit can be bought from at the moment? They appear out of stock almost everywhere.

Painy

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Doe anyone know what type of inner forward arm mounts those are on marcs car? my car comes std with a single 1xa mount rather than two single peices.