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flat4 07-27-2011 08:29 AM

thanks for the advise, it will be a few more months before I start this little adventure of making the parts. I am think of building a temporary work station with some exhaust fans to keep the dust to a minim, along with a dust mask.

Monkeys punk 07-30-2011 02:35 AM

Anyone running the 3 racing shock have an idea of the right amount of spacers I can get in the rear while still being able to get a sensible ride hight. at the moment I have 1.5mm and it's to much. Maybe take them completely out ?

Monkeys punk 08-02-2011 12:13 AM

First meeting with the m06 went well. I am still 1or2 laps off my m05 pace but there is room for plenty of improvement. After initial understeer issues where sorted I just needed to find the pace. Happy with the handling though just need to get used to Thr rear wheel drive.

CSeils 08-08-2011 05:53 AM

How tight or loose should the gear diff be? I know it's not supposed to be as tight as the gear diff on the M03.

Any suggestions?

Monkeys punk 08-09-2011 12:52 AM

Are you using the oil filled gear diff mate? I tested it last night in the m06 with kit 2000wt oil and it was way too heavy so will need to be 750 or 500 max I would say. Over on the tamiya mini cooper thread there is a few posts about it at the moment if you go back a page or 2. I am going to try again with thinner oil though. As a rule though I would have thought it would need to be way thinner than what you would use up front. Hope this helps.

GT-ONE 08-11-2011 09:57 AM

Hello I have a question. Can I change the wheel base on standard M06? Or is it just a M06 Pro feature?

monkeyracing 08-11-2011 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by CSeils (Post 9496363)
How tight or loose should the gear diff be? I know it's not supposed to be as tight as the gear diff on the M03.

Any suggestions?


Originally Posted by Monkeys punk (Post 9500807)
Are you using the oil filled gear diff mate? I tested it last night in the m06 with kit 2000wt oil and it was way too heavy so will need to be 750 or 500 max I would say. Over on the tamiya mini cooper thread there is a few posts about it at the moment if you go back a page or 2. I am going to try again with thinner oil though. As a rule though I would have thought it would need to be way thinner than what you would use up front. Hope this helps.

Yup. I haven't had it on a track yet, but the 425 oil I've got in there now feels about right. May go up a little if possible.


Originally Posted by GT-ONE (Post 9512020)
Hello I have a question. Can I change the wheel base on standard M06? Or is it just a M06 Pro feature?

Yes. You got the extra bits in the kit to change it, or did you buy it used with no extra parts?

flyradio 08-21-2011 08:12 AM

Just brought my M06.
My car always get spin when out of corner

using CVA clear blue damper (short shaft)

What springs should I use (I have set of item 42168)
My local track abit bumpy dan medium traction, and of course what number of oil should I fit.

Thanks

Madulla 08-21-2011 08:24 AM

What motor are you using?? Tires?? Diff?? Need more info. The stock kit setup works great. Soft springs in the rear med in the front. But tires make a difference, a locked or very packed diff would cause you to lose rear traction, too much motor.

flyradio 08-21-2011 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Madulla (Post 9553254)
What motor are you using?? Tires?? Diff?? Need more info. The stock kit setup works great. Soft springs in the rear med in the front. But tires make a difference, a locked or very packed diff would cause you to lose rear traction, too much motor.

Motor: Sport tuned
tires: Tamiya type B both rear n front
Diff: stock gear diff using Tamiya AW grease.
Someone mention using gear diff are perfect for rear wheel drive car. Am I put too much AW?

soft spring in rear? I thought hard spring in rear cause of motor weight. Ive thru M06 pro manual says red spring front, yellow spring rear.

What oil should I use? I want to try TRF VG #50 damper oil. It is good?

thanks Madulla for responding

edzinator 08-21-2011 01:45 PM

loose rear M06
 

Originally Posted by flyradio (Post 9553385)
Motor: Sport tuned
tires: Tamiya type B both rear n front
Diff: stock gear diff using Tamiya AW grease.
Someone mention using gear diff are perfect for rear wheel drive car. Am I put too much AW?

soft spring in rear? I thought hard spring in rear cause of motor weight. Ive thru M06 pro manual says red spring front, yellow spring rear.

What oil should I use? I want to try TRF VG #50 damper oil. It is good?

thanks Madulla for responding

Your track is bumpy? Type B's work in the heat so this is what I would work on, use neon red spring TRF blue Oring seals, TRF 3 hole pistons with 30w for rear 4-5mm ride ht. Use blk/red (soft) or blk/yel (med) spring TRF seals TRF 3 hole piston with 50w for front with 5-6mm ride ht and front swaybar to put traction at rear wheels in corner. CVA shocks are ok, I like to put two blk Orings glued together in the shock bladders. No Orings under shock pistons, use shims.
Take your diff apart clean it and put small amount of AW on each small gear only, if your traction is low this may help you power on better out of corners.
I also found the rear inner camber link mount to be weak, get some ShoeGoo wirebrush the plastic and apply to support, this will help keep camber set. I think one degree camber gives better traction and handles traffic well for me. Where I run the car most of the equipment is spec, tires, tamiya parts only, silver can motors this make setup a most important issue 60/40 (40=driving).
The M06 will fail in traffic if your body rubs the tire when pushed by another car.

Do well Edz

one-nil 08-29-2011 12:54 AM

is there a tamiya belt type diff from a different model that is compatible for the M-06? e.g. ta-05, ff03, 417 etc...

edit:

or a gear diff one that can replace the original? thanks.

monkeyracing 08-29-2011 01:02 AM

Do you want to simply replace your stock gear diff with another, or do you want to upgrade? If you're looking to convert to belt drive, then you're totally out of luck.

The only gear diff that's not the stock one, is the 3 Racing oil filled gear diff. I've got one that I haven't run yet, but I suspect the stock gear diff will be better overall.

one-nil 08-29-2011 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by monkeyracing (Post 9587234)
Do you want to simply replace your stock gear diff with another, or do you want to upgrade? If you're looking to convert to belt drive, then you're totally out of luck.

The only gear diff that's not the stock one, is the 3 Racing oil filled gear diff. I've got one that I haven't run yet, but I suspect the stock gear diff will be better overall.


Thanks for your input. It's a just for fun thing. I'm building up from a conversion kit - still in the post - so I don't really have any bits for the m-06. At all. Hence I'm checking out the diff options.

Monkeys punk 08-30-2011 12:31 AM

I run the 3 acing gear diff with the kit oil and it's way to thick for rear wheel drive. Even using 30wt shock oil it is too tight I think. I made the car really push as there was no rotation from the rear. Gone back to kit diff and it's perfect.
To be fair I have found a loose kit diff works well for a tight indoor track. 3 racing diff will be good for the m05 but can't get the thing free enough for the m06.


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