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wtcc 02-03-2013 11:52 AM

I made a short video of the steering function of my 4WS today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUVX...ature=youtu.be


The car was good to drive, with a lovely inital turn in. It didn't like the 110% driving. Within the 105% it was incredibly agile. The direction change from left to right and vise versa is lightning fast!
The actual design didn't show any weakness even though I had some meetings with the wall. So I am happy and will work on the setup in the coming week (because the car also is like riding a wild horse and needs full attention). I could go the same laptimes with other drivers (same motor turns). Right now with a "normal" touring car setup I have the feeling of understeer into the corner and toooo much steering in the middle and out of it. Maybe something I can easily adjust on my remote, but not sure.
The Tshox worked good and made no trouble, very smooth.

Chris kal 02-03-2013 11:03 PM

Tc6 conversation
 
Where did you get the low shock towers kit and t-shox for the tc6 from

Chris kal 02-03-2013 11:09 PM

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wtcc 02-04-2013 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Chris kal (Post 11770439)
Where did you get the low shock towers kit and t-shox for the tc6 from

From my milling service :D
If guys are interested I share the geometry. Just send a PM ;)

briankstan 02-05-2013 06:02 AM

I have a setup question, and it has to do with tire wear. I'm running 2 degrees of front camber and after each run you can visibly see that I'm really only using the inside half of the front tires. the rear tires are looking good and running down evenly. I feel that with only using half the tire on the front that I'm losing some acceleration and pull when coming out of the corners. I also only sauce the inside half of the fronts. I don’t typically have a problem with traction rolling and would like to keep it that way as well.

would it be beneficial to maybe spring the car stiffer and lower the camber to increase the contact patch with the tire and the track.

We are running on an ozite carpet track and the traction is “Medium High” I’m running the original RSD6 Chassis with 16.5lb RSD springs in the front, 15.5 RSD springs in the rear. 5mm ride height and 3A setting for roll center. I’m running 2.5 rear toe, 1 degree front toe out.

Any suggestions or help would. Be greatly appreciated.

R Doyel 02-05-2013 07:45 AM

Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Does anyone know when the WC chassis will be released by itself?

Kane-o 02-05-2013 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by R Doyel (Post 11776385)
Forgive me if this has already been discussed. Does anyone know when the WC chassis will be released by itself?

It has been out for almost as long as the WC kit has been out. A quick search online should reveal a few places where you can buy one.

-Kane

R Doyel 02-05-2013 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Kane-o (Post 11776525)
It has been out for almost as long as the WC kit has been out. A quick search online should reveal a few places where you can buy one.

-Kane

I entered some bad info into my search, I guess. I found it. Thanks

jha07 02-05-2013 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by briankstan (Post 11776030)
I have a setup question, and it has to do with tire wear. I'm running 2 degrees of front camber and after each run you can visibly see that I'm really only using the inside half of the front tires. the rear tires are looking good and running down evenly. I feel that with only using half the tire on the front that I'm losing some acceleration and pull when coming out of the corners. I also only sauce the inside half of the fronts. I don’t typically have a problem with traction rolling and would like to keep it that way as well.

would it be beneficial to maybe spring the car stiffer and lower the camber to increase the contact patch with the tire and the track.

We are running on an ozite carpet track and the traction is “Medium High” I’m running the original RSD6 Chassis with 16.5lb RSD springs in the front, 15.5 RSD springs in the rear. 5mm ride height and 3A setting for roll center. I’m running 2.5 rear toe, 1 degree front toe out.

Any suggestions or help would. Be greatly appreciated.

If you want to wear your front tires more evenly, you need softer front springs, not stiffer. Your car isn't rolling enough, which is why only the inside tire is wearing. You could also try more front droop. Less camber would help too. Try that, but use less sauce, because you'll get more steering with a softer front suspension.

rangerjkb 02-07-2013 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by briankstan (Post 11776030)
I have a setup question, and it has to do with tire wear. I'm running 2 degrees of front camber and after each run you can visibly see that I'm really only using the inside half of the front tires. the rear tires are looking good and running down evenly. I feel that with only using half the tire on the front that I'm losing some acceleration and pull when coming out of the corners. I also only sauce the inside half of the fronts. I don’t typically have a problem with traction rolling and would like to keep it that way as well.

would it be beneficial to maybe spring the car stiffer and lower the camber to increase the contact patch with the tire and the track.

We are running on an ozite carpet track and the traction is “Medium High” I’m running the original RSD6 Chassis with 16.5lb RSD springs in the front, 15.5 RSD springs in the rear. 5mm ride height and 3A setting for roll center. I’m running 2.5 rear toe, 1 degree front toe out.

Any suggestions or help would. Be greatly appreciated.

+1 on previously mentioned setup options. Can also try raising the inside camber link location (adding shims) to create less camber gain during suspension up-travel.

KC10Chief 02-07-2013 10:59 AM

I'm having the opposite problem with my front tires. The outside of the tires is wearing faster than the inside. I am using Xceed 37 shore 26mm foam tires. No sauce allowed. Stock springs up front on my WC. My camber is about 1 degree on the front. The rear tires are fine. Thoughts?

bigtez 02-07-2013 01:27 PM

KC10, Give it some more camber. We run foams at my local club and my TC6 needs about 2.5deg of camber to prevent coning.

YoDog 02-07-2013 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by KC10Chief (Post 11786487)
I'm having the opposite problem with my front tires. The outside of the tires is wearing faster than the inside. I am using Xceed 37 shore 26mm foam tires. No sauce allowed. Stock springs up front on my WC. My camber is about 1 degree on the front. The rear tires are fine. Thoughts?

Caster can have an effect on this as well. Are you running 4 or 6 degree caster?

YoDog 02-07-2013 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by rangerjkb (Post 11785026)
+1 on previously mentioned setup options. Can also try raising the inside camber link location (adding shims) to create less camber gain during suspension up-travel.

That will actually change roll center. Use longer upper links and inside mounting position on the bulkheads. This will reduce camber gain.

geeunit1014 02-07-2013 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by YoDog (Post 11787070)
That will actually change roll center. Use longer upper links and inside mounting position on the bulkheads. This will reduce camber gain.

It does both actually :)


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