Holy Smokey Robinson... yall will F Up a class ... I cant believe I took the time to read all this at 1230am ... I would love to see all this on the track and make a difference to anybody but a "pro" driver... come on guys yall killing it... can we just work on setup and running the motors as they were intended ?... I have one of the original 5 motors and it still works just fine,, with the right FDR and setup Im right there in the mix or on top of the pile.

Lets just race and have some fun... put some mirrors and headlights in your GT car and feel the fun

Simple. All spec ESC's will have a security sticker placed across the two halves of the case and motors will have a security sticker placed across the endbell and can. When the sticker is removed it will leave parts of it behind. Tires, inserts, and wheels will be a little more difficult, but one way is to measure the firmness, if the firmness of the tire meets specs, then there shouldn't be a tire advantage. If it were up to me, I'd only allow one ESC to make things easy. I think the Hobbywing Stock Spec is a suitable ESC for USGT and it's inexpensive, which is in the spirit of Spec Racing. If scrutineers are what's needed to keep things fair and people from cheating then yes, but obviously this will not be a common practice at the club level, because at the end of the day it's up to the Race Director as to how their program is run. Personally, I would only tech the top 3 cars at big club races, regionals, and nationals. I am in no way suggesting that people will have to buy new Motors and ESC's, that is something that will slowly be phased in, so for the time being I would suggest that when a car goes through initial tech inspection before an event some type of sticker be placed over the places I already mentioned, if the racer chooses to leave the sticker on it will speed up pre and post tech.

I wrote that rule so it encompasses every class that a sanctioning body may cover. The USGT class does not have a spec chassis, so that part of the rule would not apply to USGT. The only things spec in USGT are ESC, Motor, and Tire, everything else is fair game.

How is this a USGT specific problem? That applies to any blinky class.

Security stickers are pretty easy to defeat. What you described is neither simple nor effective.
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I think you highlighted the even bigger problem, that people would try to defeat them in the first place.

The problem with stickers is the adhesive softens with heat, and when it gets hot enough, it falls off. The best solution that I can think of is packaging the USGT motor in a 2-in-1, like the hobbywing axe system, measuring no-load amp draw to see if it matches a predetermined figure, using nail polish to color the screws and using that for a handout motor.

The problem with this is, from what I have seen, most of the cheaters are really good friends/associates of the track owner. Also, There would have to be a BOLO for this cheater at every track. Otherwise, they may be suspended at one track, but they would just go to the next track until their suspension is up.

There is nothing that can be done to prevent cheaters. Although they are the most childish and immature people in the RC world, they will keep doing it because they think it makes their tiny winky bigger. Some racers just like the thought of being a rebel by beating the system and winning. If that is the case, maybe there should be a class for that one. A 21.5 class where you have to use all stock spec, blinky, and fixed timing electronics. However, you can modify it all you want but it can't look like it was modified.

Thank you for adding to the conversation, I didn't think about the heat. Colored screws would be an easy way to tech the motor and regarding the esc I'm sure some type of seal could be figured out. It's astonishing the lengths that some people go to cheat in this hobby and if stickers were implemented no doubt some would've tried to replicate a sticker that would've only been made available to officials and race directors and I'm sure some race directors would've given them to their favorite racer(s), but I think most would've played by the rules.

The motor/esc combo is a good idea that I personally don't prefer due to electronics be crammed in to a small enclosure next to a heat source, but at the same time it makes things that much easier and it cuts costs.

USGT is a blinky class is it not and it's not a problem specific to USGT, so those classes would need to be teched as well. Again the rule I wrote is a global rule, it applies to all classes but all specifics may not apply to every class. People have stated that well I do this and that because there is no rule preventing it, the rule I wrote takes care of that.

None of this would be an issue and all of these rules wouldn't have to be made if people were able to race classes as intended, but nope, people just can't let things be. Remember it's you that chose to race a spec class, there are other classes that you can tinker to your hearts delight, go race in that class.

Which is why I was suggesting a GT1 type class (doesn't *have* to be called GT1) where you can run boosted/turbo esc and slicks while running the GT bodies.

What car is this based off of
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Im thinking Lotus Evija
https://www.lotuscars.com/en-US/evija

Correct

The solution to no tampering with the ESC or Motor is Liquid Contact Indicators (LCI). Simply add the fluid to the indicator itself, put on the inside, and if you try to open the motor, it turns blue ( or what ever color the manufacturer wants). Comes attached on the inside from the factory, no way around setting it off if you try to open either. You could add indicator strips for easy visual verification at races.

However, many different things are killing USGT, and RC racing in general. Creating tamper free parts won't fix that.

But it is hella entertaining to read.

Why stop at changing colors for tampering. The esc should just stop working and need to be replaced: buy another esc or stop cheating...lol...