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Old 09-09-2019 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Sodano




Racers will buy multiple stator’s and rotors which are available so they can build the ultimate spec motor to be fast
So, if you think you’re saving money.. be prepared
If they want to waste money in that manner then let them. If these motor are tested and controlled as RobK mentioned then they will have truly wasted their money.

At the end of the day, the Spec motor is still the better option.

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Old 09-09-2019 | 10:19 AM
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and at the end of the day, one tap and it doesn’t matter
The issue with that is the people I race against dont make those mistakes, so if they don't tap then it does matter.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopscotch
The issue with that is the people I race against dont make those mistakes, so if they don't tap then it does matter.
in my mind with the folks in know that run usgt that are fast enough to make the A main in usgt....
2 will buy 3 motors
2 will buy 2 motors
the rest will only buy 1 motor and they will all still finish in the exact same spot as they normall would with or without a handout motor ..... but this time there will only be 1/10s of a second between them and others vs seconds with open motor ... and I’m 99% sure if you put all there motors in a box and did a random draw they would still finish in the exact same order ,
buying multiple right spec handout motors is more about reassurance and confidence instead of lottery luck speed .
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Old 09-09-2019 | 01:54 PM
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Well put jlfx car audio. I can recall running VTA where all you could run was the Novak Boss 25.5T If everyone drew a motor out of a box I think the finishing results would be pretty much the same.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopscotch
The issue with that is the people I race against dont make those mistakes, so if they don't tap then it does matter.
Well then you're probably not going to beat them regardless of motor.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 05:31 PM
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The whole point of the spec motor is to tighten the field and reduce cost. If the spec is cheap, most people will buy in cus they don't feel obligated to spend $200 on a full on motor just to keep up. Of course the guys who drive well and don't make mistakes will win, but the disparity of speed as it stands now between cheap motors and expensive ones is huge! Taking that variable away will only highlight clean lines and force everyone to drive better. Practice doesn't empty your pocket like motor of the month scenario and everyone benefits if we all drive better and fun goes up! Isn't that the goal?
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Old 09-09-2019 | 05:52 PM
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anyone running 7000mah or greater in their usgt? noticed some are running 8500mah what is the advantage besides a whole bunch of weight?
I have been running 5200 for a while .
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Old 09-09-2019 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fat500
anyone running 7000mah or greater in their usgt? noticed some are running 8500mah what is the advantage besides a whole bunch of weight?
I have been running 5200 for a while .
just different mind set between people
yes the big sticks hold better voltage than any given equal quality smaller pack ... but they are heavy and require ballist on electronics side making for a wider weight foot print .
We over at the track EA owns have all decided that it’s over rated .
The smaller EA 5200 packs still have great resistance but since they are 250g they are almost a perfect match to the electronics across from it once in the car ... so all added weight can be added lower and more to the center allowing for a easier to drive car that’s more agile.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fat500
anyone running 7000mah or greater in their usgt? noticed some are running 8500mah what is the advantage besides a whole bunch of weight?
I have been running 5200 for a while .
higher capacity batteries can deliver a combination of higher voltage or current over time hypothetically. It takes more work to accelerate a larger mass so until the clock or a test provides details its just a theory but plausible.
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Old 09-10-2019 | 05:39 PM
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perfect....I will stick with my 5200 for now
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Old 09-10-2019 | 07:31 PM
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But if you lock motors down then an arms race around batteries is probably the next thing to consider.
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Old 09-10-2019 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bry195
But if you lock motors down then an arms race around batteries is probably the next thing to consider.
If it works anything like canam has ....., that will be a hard negative ... the easier to drive setup will still prevail ....
meaning small packs will rule .
Now these are actual 21.5 motors with locked timing . So it might be slightly different but until someone tests and determine what kind of power is used thru out a run we can only speculate ... but with us running a Super stock speed tc with 10.5 motors at apex large batteries don’t give any advantage on the track at all by no one
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Old 09-10-2019 | 08:36 PM
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Not really looking forward to buying another spec motor for a class that already has one. I get it that many feel hurt that usgt is using a canam motor in many regions but now the end consumer gets to fit the bill, not the right direction if we are trying to grow the sport.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bry195
But if you lock motors down then an arms race around batteries is probably the next thing to consider.
This argument keeps coming up. There already is an arms race with batteries, a motor rule won't change anything there.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bry195

higher capacity batteries can deliver a combination of higher voltage or current over time hypothetically. It takes more work to accelerate a larger mass so until the clock or a test provides details its just a theory but plausible.
I must be over thinking this.
1380 is min weight for USGT, correct?
If 2 cars both weigh 1380 and 1 has a 8200 mah battery and 1 has a 5200 mah battery I want the 8200, no?
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