PFM-10 is a real car? ;)

The PFM-10 resembles a McLaren. These days body makers get sued if they look exactly like the real cars. Ask Dale Epp from Protoform about it. Car manufacturers want licensing fees.

I used three different bodies at AY's (4) race series. I TQ'ed and won race one with a Tamiya EBBRO 350R. Race two I used the Tamiya Subaru. Qualified second and won the race. And yesterday tried a Cadillac body with the HPI wing. I TQ'ed and won as well with that. So I don't think it really matters what body I use. You don't have to feel sorry for me. You've only beat me once out of countless races. Can't wait to race you again. Lol

It's not just these days, it's always been the case. No car manufacturer is going to let you copy its design without its permission.

I'm also aware what the PFM-10 is supposed to look like.. But looking like a McLaren shouldn't make it legal when the Raikiri which also looks like some sort of car is not.

:lol::lol::lol:

Fred told us the car was based off of a Tamiya mini 4wd car that they(tamiya) just made up....this is why its not on the list. Sure it looks like a some sort of a car as it has 4 wheels doors and windows. It blatantly obvious what Dale was doing with the PFM-10

[QUOTE=Raman;14794304]It's not just these days, it's always been the case. No car manufacturer is going to let you copy its design without its permission.

I think either Dale or Eric Epp said that there was never an issue with Mazda though!

Is that because they asked for permission and it was granted freely, or that they just went and did it and Mazda didn't bother pursuing the matter?

From what I remember, it was granted freely.

....Yes, "it was granted freely" but only with with a signed contract and the exchange of $$ for every body sold.

Dale - Protoform

Kevin K- I read your answer to why the Raikari isn't legal. Thanks for explaining, but I have to ask you.
1) just like the PF10- all bodies get their inspiration from a real car. The Raikari may not be a real car like the PF10. And Tamiya for the sake of being sued will not mention what car it was made after. But this body is in the same predicament as the PF10 and I hope that the powers to be will reconsider making this body USGT legal

2) my other comment is that it was already legal before. Shouldn't any body that was made legal. Stay legal?

1...The PFM-10 is named as such for licencing reasons...much like the MX-Stang is named that way from McAllister. We get it and thats why these bodies are legal. The Raikari is not based off a real car it has some likeness to some super cars but its not modeled after 1 car like the PFM-10 and MX-Stang are.

2...I dont recall the Raikari ever being on our list as approved once we made our list. I can go through our revisions on our list but I do not remember ever adding it to the list. Before that it was legal before the list then it falls into a category with a bunch of other bodies that are no longer on our list.

In the end you can always talk to your track and see if you can race the body that you like thats not on the list. We dont have a USGT police force out there to stop these sort of things....if we did maybe we might save some horse beatings...lol

Tamiya banned the Raikari last year, for TCS, almost as soon as it was released.