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Raman 10-29-2016 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin K (Post 14718845)
The only time that I have seen the insert break down drastically before the tire has reached its end of life is when harsh chemicals were used on the tires or when the tire was mounted some super glue gets inside the tire and eats the inserts. What I have seen is that the insert starts to become "flatter" but at the same time the tire has become so swollen up from traction compound that it looks like a cycle tire that its very round....and when this happens Im not sure any insert would not have the same issue.

I clean with denatured alcohol and use sxt 3.0 traction compound on my ride / gravity spec tyre as well as my Sorex TC tyres.

I dont know if that constitutes as too much chemicals being used on the tyres.. If it does then it's not affecting the Sorex, which are lasting a lot longer.

The price of the premount spec tyres is the same as a set of Sorex premounts. So they aren't inexpensive.

Since this is the only class that uses this tyre and is generating revenue for them, we have leverage to ask for improvements.

Maybe we need a carpet version. Never hurts to ask :D

Scargoes 10-29-2016 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Trez83 (Post 14718329)

I sure hope it has cup holders.

That is what the passenger is for.

NutDriver 10-29-2016 03:36 PM

I know that another racer in the NC/SC area has contacted Paul about insert failure. It is my understanding that he is looking into it. If you've had an issue, Paul seems interested in knowing about it.

Johnn27 10-29-2016 07:47 PM

21.5 motor
 
I need to buy a motor for USGT can anyone make some recommendations?
I don't want to buy the wrong motor

DARKSIDE 10-29-2016 08:09 PM

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts..._21_5_1s_spec/

Kevin K 10-29-2016 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Johnn27 (Post 14719118)
I need to buy a motor for USGT can anyone make some recommendations?
I don't want to buy the wrong motor

The reedy 1s motor, Team Scream and Motiv are all good choices IMO on carpet tracks.

OVA 10-29-2016 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Johnn27 (Post 14719118)
I need to buy a motor for USGT can anyone make some recommendations?
I don't want to buy the wrong motor

First question it : how big your track and out or indoor track?

Johnn27 10-29-2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by OVA (Post 14719148)
First question it : how big your track and out or indoor track?

track is a large carpet track

Grizzbob 10-30-2016 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by Raman (Post 14718904)
I clean with denatured alcohol and use sxt 3.0 traction compound on my ride / gravity spec tyre as well as my Sorex TC tyres.

I dont know if that constitutes as too much chemicals being used on the tyres.. If it does then it's not affecting the Sorex, which are lasting a lot longer.

The price of the premount spec tyres is the same as a set of Sorex premounts. So they aren't inexpensive.

Since this is the only class that uses this tyre and is generating revenue for them, we have leverage to ask for improvements.

Maybe we need a carpet version. Never hurts to ask :D

I do find that interesting, since I don't believe I've noticed any problem with that on my car(I'm on my 4th or 5th set since I got going in on road again with the opening of a new carpet track in my state), but I'm also using something else for traction compound. Over a year ago at a nearby off road track(med-high grip clay indoors), a number of the guys there told me about using Goo Gone(this stuff, exactly: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Goo-Gone-...Spray/17300573 ), & I tried it back to back with SXT 3.0(my preferred "true" traction compound), & I couldn't feel ANY difference in grip overall or lap times, plus I found that the Goo Gone seems to do its thing faster(don't have to wait as long for it to have soaked long enough). So when the new carpet track opened up, I tried it on all my on road stuff(even on the foam tires for my 1/12 scale), & I like it just as much on those. Now I don't know if it's easier on the inserts in truth, but I just haven't noticed any insert degradation so far. Might be worth experimenting with(especially since Goo Gone is downright CHEAP compared to SXT)....:cool:

howardcano 10-30-2016 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Johnn27 (Post 14719118)
I need to buy a motor for USGT can anyone make some recommendations?
I don't want to buy the wrong motor

That's a pretty important decision at the moment. Unfortunately, ROAR still has not ratified minimum resistance rules for any motors other than 25.5, and recently one manufacturer, TSR, has released a new motor with a different stator design that has substantially lower resistance than all previous designs. I'd prefer that had not happened, but it did. Now many racers will spend more money to be competitive. (I proposed minimum resistance rules for the spec motor winds over three years ago, when I was the technical director, and I fail to comprehend why it has not been ratified.)

The motor is the Team Scream Racing (TSR) 1.0. The new stator design is available in 21.5 for USGT. I'm looking at pulling out the credit card right now!

Johnn27 10-30-2016 06:45 AM

Motor info
 
Thanks for all the great info anybody check out the new trinity monster HP motor?

racenut123 10-30-2016 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 14719334)
That's a pretty important decision at the moment. Unfortunately, ROAR still has not ratified minimum resistance rules for any motors other than 25.5, and recently one manufacturer, TSR, has released a new motor with a different stator design that has substantially lower resistance than all previous designs. I'd prefer that had not happened, but it did. Now many racers will spend more money to be competitive. (I proposed minimum resistance rules for the spec motor winds over three years ago, when I was the technical director, and I fail to comprehend why it has not been ratified.)

The motor is the Team Scream Racing (TSR) 1.0. The new stator design is available in 21.5 for USGT. I'm looking at pulling out the credit card right now!

What you have posted makes sense. We had 1 guy at a recent race with the newest TS "1" and he was hands down faster then the other 39 guys running in the HP department. We are talking really good racers in the top 10 and he went from qualifying mid pack to running through the front of the field like they were dumping. Everyone else running last gen motors. R1 and Team Powers are just about to release their latest. Team Scream beat them to the punch.

Raman 10-30-2016 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Grizzbob (Post 14719261)
I do find that interesting, since I don't believe I've noticed any problem with that on my car(I'm on my 4th or 5th set since I got going in on road again with the opening of a new carpet track in my state), but I'm also using something else for traction compound. Over a year ago at a nearby off road track(med-high grip clay indoors), a number of the guys there told me about using Goo Gone(this stuff, exactly: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Goo-Gone-...Spray/17300573 ), & I tried it back to back with SXT 3.0(my preferred "true" traction compound), & I couldn't feel ANY difference in grip overall or lap times, plus I found that the Goo Gone seems to do its thing faster(don't have to wait as long for it to have soaked long enough). So when the new carpet track opened up, I tried it on all my on road stuff(even on the foam tires for my 1/12 scale), & I like it just as much on those. Now I don't know if it's easier on the inserts in truth, but I just haven't noticed any insert degradation so far. Might be worth experimenting with(especially since Goo Gone is downright CHEAP compared to SXT)....:cool:

I know the stuff, use it to remove those darn pesky labels on glass ware that don't come off completely.

That's awesome If it works, no need to clean thee tyres first.

I opened up an older set and 3 out of 4 tyres; inserts were worn / had spots of degradation. There was no disintegration glue coming into contact with them.

patorz31 10-30-2016 11:10 AM

The inserts at our track take a beating. The tires get a round look like a motorcycle tire and if you cut it open the insert looks like a rope.

Josh-n-ya 10-30-2016 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by racenut123 (Post 14719446)
What you have posted makes sense. We had 1 guy at a recent race with the newest TS "1" and he was hands down faster then the other 39 guys running in the HP department. We are talking really good racers in the top 10 and he went from qualifying mid pack to running through the front of the field like they were dumping. Everyone else running last gen motors. R1 and Team Powers are just about to release their latest. Team Scream beat them to the punch.

USGT racing was good until it got better. :sneaky:


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