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Old 09-20-2016 | 01:53 PM
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Any "SCALE" molded wings can be used. Lexan wings 10mm maximum height / side dam height

Question about this, not sure about the 10mm height in this rule and what it pertains to. I don't remember seeing this in the previous rule set was it in them? It could have been there and I just didn't see it. USGT has been running at my track for a couple of years and most bodies, protoform being the main one, come with a wing that is being cut at the top line. There is a line below the top line that is probably 10mm, the top is probably 20mm. Is this the height the 10mm in the rule is talking about? This has just come up so we are gathering info and deciding where to go from there. Thanks for any info on this.
It's been in the rules for quite some time. Even when I raced USGT back in 2014. That's why I always comment on peoples cars at the track about their illegal wings, yet no one seems to care.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 03:09 PM
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I think the rule was intended to get people to use scale wings instead of the fugly lexan wings guys run in Sedan classes. They look like taco salad shells or something. Doesn't seem to be enforced much, but it's up to individual tracks to tech this stuff.
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Old 09-20-2016 | 04:06 PM
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its tech and checked at the...............


2016 U.S.VTA Southern Nationals in Music City U.S.A.....GOING DOWN THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!


just saying....
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Old 09-22-2016 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyMac
It's been in the rules for quite some time. Even when I raced USGT back in 2014. That's why I always comment on peoples cars at the track about their illegal wings, yet no one seems to care.
We are now aware of it and going to sort it out.
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Old 09-24-2016 | 07:41 AM
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Basically, nearly all Tamiya lexan wings are illegal with the 10mm rule. Ironic considering how Tamiya bodies are faithful scale representations of their full size counterparts.
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Old 09-24-2016 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rtypec
Basically, nearly all Tamiya lexan wings are illegal with the 10mm rule. Ironic considering how Tamiya bodies are faithful scale representations of their full size counterparts.
Yeah I bought the wing that was legal for the Spec GT class at IIC. Not sure if its technically legal but it has to work better than stock.
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Old 09-24-2016 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rtypec
Basically, nearly all Tamiya lexan wings are illegal with the 10mm rule. Ironic considering how Tamiya bodies are faithful scale representations of their full size counterparts.
Honestly, the Tamiya lexan racing wing was not our first consideration when we made the rules. You are free to run any lexan wing (or plastic molded wing) in combination with the Tamiya bodies as long as it fits the rules.
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Old 09-25-2016 | 09:05 AM
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In your experience, has anyone ever run a Tamiya Xv-01 in your club's USGT class?

I am trying to gauge how competitive this chassis is, at its slight disadvantage with weight, but different driving dynamic with front mount motor.

Thoughts?

Also does anyone ever run hatchback bodies?
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Old 09-25-2016 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 4roller
In your experience, has anyone ever run a Tamiya Xv-01 in your club's USGT class?
Can't say I've seen a XV-01 raced in our club, or anywhere for that matter. I ran a Tamiya TB-04 for a season in VTA and was reasonably successful with it (I wasn't winning with it, but I had fun, LOL). Other than that, we haven't seen any Tamiya cars save for a few TRF41x's here and there.


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Also does anyone ever run hatchback bodies?
No, not in our club anyway. A few have tried them, but not with great success. For a 190 mm touring car a hatchback body is going to have a relatively high COG and will also have a lot of surface area. It's neat to see them, though.
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Old 09-25-2016 | 09:20 PM
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There are alot if Tamiya Evo 5 and 6's with he exo conversion running USGT out there. AND I just picked up a TA07 as well. You don't have to run a $600+ Xray or Awesomatix to have fun and win in this class. That's why I enjoy it so much. The tires really help even the slight difference in motors and chassis.
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Old 09-26-2016 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
There are alot if Tamiya Evo 5 and 6's with he exo conversion running USGT out there. AND I just picked up a TA07 as well. You don't have to run a $600+ Xray or Awesomatix to have fun and win in this class. That's why I enjoy it so much. The tires really help even the slight difference in motors and chassis.
Agreed, I run a TRF417 & have also used a TA05v.2 & both work great for USGT, & have also driven a friend's TA07 & was VERY impressed with it, but I have to admit I really don't know much(beyond the basics) about the XV-01, not sure what it would take to make it run well with normal TC chassis. But if you're not running with a lot of real hardcore racers(like the Awsomatix, XRay, & other high dollar guys), then it'd be worth trying. As an example, at my local track(Urban RC in Jenks, OK), there are 2-3 guys like myself who can make use of the expensive cars, but most of the rest are not at that experience level yet, so for them, buying the most expensive chassis won't have a lot of effect on their performance, not until they learn more about the right driving lines, how to carry corner speed, consistency, how to pass cleanly, etc.. Those things will come, but until then the seriously expensive cars won't really help much. If your situation is similar, then I'd say go ahead & try the XV-01 if you already have it, certainly can't hurt anything...
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Old 09-26-2016 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
There are alot if Tamiya Evo 5 and 6's with he exo conversion running USGT out there. AND I just picked up a TA07 as well. You don't have to run a $600+ Xray or Awesomatix to have fun and win in this class. That's why I enjoy it so much. The tires really help even the slight difference in motors and chassis.
I'd imagine an Xray would be cheaper than an Exo 6 converted Evo 6...
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Old 09-26-2016 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
I'd imagine an Xray would be cheaper than an Exo 6 converted Evo 6...
That is a negative. $300 for the Evo from rc mart, no need to convert to the exo to be competative. But even then conversion kit was only $140. So $440 for a kit that includes things like DCJ's, amd other upgrade parts not included on an Xray. I realize the 16 and 17 include DCJ's, but they run $550 or more). Another great alternative are the VBC line if cars. From the low end Ghost and Ghost RM, to the top of the line D08, VBC is easily on par with other top tier manufacturers and lower cost.


I wasn't trying to knock the her end manufacturers, they make great cars, however I juat want to emphasize to those getting into the hobby, that you don't have to have one I'm order to compete. There are very viable alternatives despite the deafening roar to the contrary from fanboys.
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Old 09-26-2016 | 04:28 AM
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Tire question:

I going to be attending a big race in a little over a month and running in the USGT class.

Are the ride tires you have to use better when they are new, or after they quite worn?
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Old 09-26-2016 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
That is a negative. $300 for the Evo from rc mart, no need to convert to the exo to be competative. But even then conversion kit was only $140. So $440 for a kit that includes things like DCJ's, amd other upgrade parts not included on an Xray. I realize the 16 and 17 include DCJ's, but they run $550 or more). Another great alternative are the VBC line if cars. From the low end Ghost and Ghost RM, to the top of the line D08, VBC is easily on par with other top tier manufacturers and lower cost.


I wasn't trying to knock the her end manufacturers, they make great cars, however I juat want to emphasize to those getting into the hobby, that you don't have to have one I'm order to compete. There are very viable alternatives despite the deafening roar to the contrary from fanboys.
I never said that the Exo is required, you're the one that suggested the combination, and claimed it's a lot cheaper than an Xray. I just looked at rcmart to find the numbers you quoted, and the Evo 6 is $325, and the Xray 17 is $490 (preorder price). When you include the price of the Exo conversion, it's $455. I was a bit off thinking it was more expensive (second hand prices in my area puts the Exo much higher), but it's still the same ballpark. It's hardly a budget option.
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