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Old 04-27-2015 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyMac
I ran my D4 1s at a 3.79 this past weekend. But it all really depends on track layout and size. Mine was on a carpet track with a size of about 90x40'ish. Tire wear has been great for me on carpet. Possibly several months. Just depends how often you race.
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Old 04-27-2015 | 10:01 PM
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I left mine how it came from eXpress... right at 50. I haven't really played much with motor settings as I just got it Sunday to race in that class. I did start with a 3.69 final, but the car was still accelerating at the end of the straight. Maybe next weekend I'll try a 3.87 final just to see how my lap times look. Or, I may try 55 on the timing. Anyways, I would say starting point for me to be 3.78 (not 3.79 sorry) with 50 on the timing. Then go from there.
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Old 04-28-2015 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by racenut123
How well do these tires wear? How many runs/days can you get out of a set on Carpet and Asphalt?
We are getting 3 to 4 days out of a set on very abrasive, low traction asphalt. Unlike most TC-type slicks, the lap times don't fall off appreciably as the tires wear.
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Old 04-28-2015 | 09:33 AM
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John: I run my d4 ss in usgt at 3.78 52 timing at Speedworld
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Old 04-28-2015 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks Jay! Perfect. Fan?
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John: I run my d4 ss in usgt at 3.78 52 timing at Speedworld
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Old 04-28-2015 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by racenut123
Thanks Jay! Perfect. Fan?
using the trinity part that replaces the center section with a fan mount, then the 30mm WTF fan, 140F every run

http://www.trinityrc.net/shop/index....product_id=667
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Old 04-28-2015 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JayL
using the trinity part that replaces the center section with a fan mount, then the 30mm WTF fan, 140F every run

http://www.trinityrc.net/shop/index....product_id=667
That is one slick optional part! Almost wants me to pick up a D4. But in the meantime, I ordered this fan mount from Yeah Racing:

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Old 04-28-2015 | 01:00 PM
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You guys probably have checked this site, but Integy has a lot of different fan setups. Just go to the Integy site and do a search of motor fan.
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Old 04-28-2015 | 03:29 PM
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yep that fan D4 mount is the best!

for other motors I prefer the orca fan mount, it has a screw that forces it tight on the motor can

http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=8664
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Old 04-29-2015 | 03:49 AM
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Has anyone else had a problem with the spec tire inserts gong to poop after just a few runs. I have two tires that are useless just after getting to the point of being really broken in. One tire the foam is gone; turned to powder, the other it separated and bunched up on one side.
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Old 04-29-2015 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
Has anyone else had a problem with the spec tire inserts gong to poop after just a few runs. I have two tires that are useless just after getting to the point of being really broken in. One tire the foam is gone; turned to powder, the other it separated and bunched up on one side.
what does a few runs mean in your book?

I have not seen this happen in a few runs...less than 10 runs.

I have seen the insert break down on the front tires that I have had for many race days...about 4 to 5 weekends/days of racing...so I would think over 50-60 runs with practice added in.

I have yet to see the insert break or separate and bunch up....not that it couldn't happen I just have not seen it.

Are you doing anything with your tires like soaking them in a bag with traction compound or hitting them with any harsh chemicals?

I only use LGC and SXT for my traction compounds....what are you using?
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Old 04-29-2015 | 09:13 AM
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By a few runs, I mean 2 race days, maybe 10-12 packs on them total. They aren't even fully broken in. The center mold is still there. I use sxt 3.0, and liberally coat them before storing in a zip lock bag. I also have been using tire warmers to get heat cycles through the tires to help decrease break in time. USGT tires are inexpensive, so I'm not worried about that, I just hate having to break in a new set already.
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Old 04-29-2015 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
By a few runs, I mean 2 race days, maybe 10-12 packs on them total. They aren't even fully broken in. The center mold is still there. I use sxt 3.0, and liberally coat them before storing in a zip lock bag. I also have been using tire warmers to get heat cycles through the tires to help decrease break in time. USGT tires are inexpensive, so I'm not worried about that, I just hate having to break in a new set already.
It's proably the SXT in the ziplock, I had insert issues when I tried ziplocking mounted tires with sauce

What I do now is before I mount the I put just the tires with sauce on all surfaces in zip lock for a few days, then I clean inside and mounting with simple green then mount, then grind the mold seam off then run
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Old 04-29-2015 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
Has anyone else had a problem with the spec tire inserts gong to poop after just a few runs. I have two tires that are useless just after getting to the point of being really broken in. One tire the foam is gone; turned to powder, the other it separated and bunched up on one side.
I race with Bronson. I've had the same issues with the USGT tires, but ONLY ON THE FRONT. After a few race weekends, the front inserts collapsed, bunched up on one half of the tire, and one broke. On each of the failed tires, I cut them open to see exactly what happened. The foam was compressed/collapsed.

I don't soak my tires, simply use SXT3.0 treatment to clean and sauce the tires at the track.

It does not happen to the rears, I suspect the fronts deteriorate because if the extra load put on them by steering.

Now, I just keep an eye on them by squeezing them and feeling the inserts condition compared to the rears. When the fronts start to feel "hollow" or extra soft, I just replace them.

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Old 04-29-2015 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
By a few runs, I mean 2 race days, maybe 10-12 packs on them total. They aren't even fully broken in. The center mold is still there. I use sxt 3.0, and liberally coat them before storing in a zip lock bag. I also have been using tire warmers to get heat cycles through the tires to help decrease break in time. USGT tires are inexpensive, so I'm not worried about that, I just hate having to break in a new set already.
Are you racing on carpet or asphalt?

I really think that you soaking them and putting them into a ziploc bag might be the cause of some of the premature end of life with the insert.

For carpet this is how I prep my tires...
I use a muchmore tire sanding tool and use a file to take down the center seam. I then use a green scotch-brite pad and scuff the tire and take all the "shine" off the tire.
After that I just run them in and will use buggy grip on the tire before I sauce them the first 3 times. I will let the compound soak for 20-30 minutes for the first 3 runs and by the 4th or 5th run the tires are fine.
Also one thing I have been doing is I will do a burn out with the tires before I race and after I race. I think that the burn out after the race helps clean the tire for the next race.

I know these tires are "cheap" in the grand scheme of things but really you should be able to get 50-60 runs if not more out if a set on carpet. I also rotate them left to right every 3 runs aswell. Once the tires show the signs of the insert breaking down or the tire being too worn on the inside of the fronts, I throw them in a box and use them outside in the summer time. I usually end up with about 5 or so pairs of tires to use outside after a full indoor season up here in the midwest.
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