Originally Posted by Cpt.America (Post 7519644)

BUt how do you know? Have you had your car on a setup station and actually measured these things?

Here is an example of how I know you have a general setup problem.. you say you are running this setup, but you raised the car to 7+mm ride height (but you dont actually know your ride height, you just guessed). Well, did you readjust your downstops to keep your desired droop? I am guessing not, which means you are probably down to 0-1mm of droop front and rear... you can't JUST change the ride height, without changing your downstop settings, or you will ruin your droop settings.

So you already aren't running any sway bars, which is something I would of suggested removing... and it looks like you are running too much rear toe-in. That much rear toe-in will REALLY lock the rear to the ground, making the car difficult to turn. You could free up the rear end by dropping it down to maybe 2.5 or 2mm.

But again... without actually putting the car on a setup station, there is no way to tell what your setup ACTUALLY is.

Originally Posted by MikeXray (Post 7519654)

To add, changing your ride height that much is going to have an effect on camber and toe as well, these all need to be readjusted.

Originally Posted by Cpt.America (Post 7519663)

I deleted my reply. I just can't help people, that wont help me, help them.

Originally Posted by R40Victim (Post 7519859)

Man, I'm not trying to frustrate you, just asking for suggestions. I never got as specific as other on road guys, because I could just drive the car. Box stock setups with minor changes are often my best bet. So I'm looking for suggestions on changes, not a complete setup.

Originally Posted by R40Victim (Post 7519859)

Man, I'm not trying to frustrate you, just asking for suggestions. I never got as specific as other on road guys, because I could just drive the car. Box stock setups with minor changes are often my best bet. So I'm looking for suggestions on changes, not a complete setup.

Originally Posted by Cpt.America (Post 7520163)

I know you aren't trying to frustrate me... but pointing me to a setup sheet that you followed.. and taking actual measurements from a setup station, are two totally different things.... especially if your car has yet to ever go on a station.

Originally Posted by R40Victim (Post 7525103)

FOUND SOMETHING! I'm not sure if it's the main reason, but certainly an influence. I was going through my car, looking for loose screws, wires, etc... as anyone should do after running a new car a few times. I was revving it up on the bench, its smooth(love the Xray smoothness), that is until I turned the front wheels. It sounds TERRIBLE when I turn the front wheels more than about 30 degrees. I'm at my shop and can't post it, but I did take a vid to demonstrate. Initially, I found one of the CVD drive pins started to come out. Put it back and it still does it. I cannot see what's vibrating. It almost seems like the CVDs cannot deflect very far without severe vibration. I'm thinking this could be why my car turns in so poorly.

Theories, suggestions?

Originally Posted by ASM (Post 7515611)

Try some anti-dive in the front ;)

Originally Posted by R40Victim (Post 7525103)

FOUND SOMETHING! I'm not sure if it's the main reason, but certainly an influence. I was going through my car, looking for loose screws, wires, etc... as anyone should do after running a new car a few times. I was revving it up on the bench, its smooth(love the Xray smoothness), that is until I turned the front wheels. It sounds TERRIBLE when I turn the front wheels more than about 30 degrees. I'm at my shop and can't post it, but I did take a vid to demonstrate. Initially, I found one of the CVD drive pins started to come out. Put it back and it still does it. I cannot see what's vibrating. It almost seems like the CVDs cannot deflect very far without severe vibration. I'm thinking this could be why my car turns in so poorly.

Theories, suggestions?

Originally Posted by R40Victim (Post 7525103)

FOUND SOMETHING! I'm not sure if it's the main reason, but certainly an influence. I was going through my car, looking for loose screws, wires, etc... as anyone should do after running a new car a few times. I was revving it up on the bench, its smooth(love the Xray smoothness), that is until I turned the front wheels. It sounds TERRIBLE when I turn the front wheels more than about 30 degrees. I'm at my shop and can't post it, but I did take a vid to demonstrate. Initially, I found one of the CVD drive pins started to come out. Put it back and it still does it. I cannot see what's vibrating. It almost seems like the CVDs cannot deflect very far without severe vibration. I'm thinking this could be why my car turns in so poorly.

Theories, suggestions?

Originally Posted by Govert (Post 7525121)

These are normal characteristics when using a spool. So nothing special there.
If it is really really bad, lower your steering EPA value.

Originally Posted by Cpt.America (Post 7520163)

I know you aren't trying to frustrate me... but pointing me to a setup sheet that you followed.. and taking actual measurements from a setup station, are two totally different things.... especially if your car has yet to ever go on a station.

Originally Posted by Cpt.America (Post 7525342)

It sounds like you used too much loctite, and it mixed with your black grease on your front drive shafts. When that happens the grease itself turns to glue.... the loctite contaminates the grease... common build issue with new xray kit builders

Take a front drive shaft out of the car compeltely, hold it in your hands, and see if the axle half of the shaft can freely bend in all directions. If it is free side to side, but binds going up and down (or vicaversa), that is your issue...



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Originally Posted by R40Victim (Post 7525103)

FOUND SOMETHING! I'm not sure if it's the main reason, but certainly an influence. I was going through my car, looking for loose screws, wires, etc... as anyone should do after running a new car a few times. I was revving it up on the bench, its smooth(love the Xray smoothness), that is until I turned the front wheels. It sounds TERRIBLE when I turn the front wheels more than about 30 degrees. I'm at my shop and can't post it, but I did take a vid to demonstrate. Initially, I found one of the CVD drive pins started to come out. Put it back and it still does it. I cannot see what's vibrating. It almost seems like the CVDs cannot deflect very far without severe vibration. I'm thinking this could be why my car turns in so poorly.

Theories, suggestions?