2004 IFMAR ISTC & 1/12th On Road Worlds at Full Throttle Speedway
#2132
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Carlo, as was posted he was running a new Stratus from Yokomo, type E.......They apparently have several versions of a scaled down Stratus? Not sure how that works, but in the end everyone scrambled for the "better body" (as seems common for major on-road events) and ran one color paint jobs since the stratus E was so much better. But, the Mazda 6 won the race.......hmmmm.... Jim
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Jim - Us "On Road Guys " have been running the Mazda 6 for almost a year. It is "THE" asphalt body to run. The Losi guys were trying to unstick the rear of the JRXS all week fo they ran the Yok-E as it generally frees up the rear of any chassis you run it on. Obviously it worked as Losi got 2 cars in the main.
Over all balance wise the Mazda is better as long as the car setup is right.
Over all balance wise the Mazda is better as long as the car setup is right.
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OH, ok, alot of "on-road guys" told me at a few races leading up to the worlds that the Mazda had so much steering some couldn't run it...They recommended the Alfa that TeamLosi makes to "lock the car in". Of course none of them knew of the Stratus type E at that time, . Personally, I would think for a "freer" car trimming the rear wing down would make a significant difference without disrupting all that set-up work as much for the particular body.
What do you normally change on your set-up from body to body?....Say, from a Protoform Stratus to a Protoform Mazda?.....thanks, Jim
What do you normally change on your set-up from body to body?....Say, from a Protoform Stratus to a Protoform Mazda?.....thanks, Jim
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Originally posted by Anders Myrberg
Iīm realy impressed by the paintjob and all the fine details on Kinwalls car. Awesome job there. For sure worth to take a picture on
Iīm realy impressed by the paintjob and all the fine details on Kinwalls car. Awesome job there. For sure worth to take a picture on
#2136
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Almost forgot, "Pops" told me that when they first arrived, with a brand new design car, set-up for tight technical tracks as well, they were "way off the pace and hoped for a D main"(He chuckled with that comment of course). Matt, the fastest qualifier for TeamLosi had the Stratus E, i'm told(it did also have his paintjob on it), when they first arrived and always ran that. They did do a tremendous amount of tuning other then the body though. Matt never mentioned trying the Mazda, but i'd assume they did at some point..................Jim, the on-road rookie,
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Jim - I don't know who you were talking to but don't listen to them anymore. When the Mazda didn't make it on to the first IFMAR approval list everyone freaked. The Mazda was THE body everyone planned to run from day one....except Masami...lol! Steering wise the Mazda and the Yok-E are pretty much the same. However the Yok-E has less rear traction for more rotation mid and exit corner.
As far as setup changes for different bodies...its a two way street. You try bodies to find the one you and your car likes best. If you then make a change in bodies you have to go back and adjust your setup to compensate for the different characteristics of that body....or you just adjust your driving to the new body depending on what you are looking for.
As far as setup changes for different bodies...its a two way street. You try bodies to find the one you and your car likes best. If you then make a change in bodies you have to go back and adjust your setup to compensate for the different characteristics of that body....or you just adjust your driving to the new body depending on what you are looking for.
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Originally posted by AdrianM
Jim - I don't know who you were talking to but don't listen to them anymore. When the Mazda didn't make it on to the first IFMAR approval list everyone freaked. The Mazda was THE body everyone planned to run from day one....except Masami...lol! Steering wise the Mazda and the Yok-E are pretty much the same. However the Yok-E has less rear traction for more rotation mid and exit corner.
As far as setup changes for different bodies...its a two way street. You try bodies to find the one you and your car likes best. If you then make a change in bodies you have to go back and adjust your setup to compensate for the different characteristics of that body....or you just adjust your driving to the new body depending on what you are looking for.
Jim - I don't know who you were talking to but don't listen to them anymore. When the Mazda didn't make it on to the first IFMAR approval list everyone freaked. The Mazda was THE body everyone planned to run from day one....except Masami...lol! Steering wise the Mazda and the Yok-E are pretty much the same. However the Yok-E has less rear traction for more rotation mid and exit corner.
As far as setup changes for different bodies...its a two way street. You try bodies to find the one you and your car likes best. If you then make a change in bodies you have to go back and adjust your setup to compensate for the different characteristics of that body....or you just adjust your driving to the new body depending on what you are looking for.
At the Worlds however the flow of the track was very different. The tight turn at the end of the straight required braking and forced most teams to run spools instead of one-ways. Many teams therefore opted to run more aggressive bodies to compensate for the loss of steering caused by the spool. Mazda 6, Yokomo Stratus E Type and similar aggressive bodies were used as a result.
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Heres some more pics that im going to post. Hope u like them.
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Heres another
#2142
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It just getīs worse...
Why?
Why?
#2143
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I did notice that the Mazda 6 and the Stratus E have a very similar amount of overhang. That is the body material percentage past the rear wheels and front wheels. The Protoform stratus has alot more overhang in the back, vs the Yokomo Stratus (E) which is very similar to the Mazda 6. I guess each racer really just needs to try them all and see which they prefer for thier car, track, set-up, etc.......Good thing, that equals more paintjobs for Winning Edge Designs!!!haha.
J Concepts is now offering a sedan wing that is designed to help with body tuning and eliminate the need to change the entire body. A concept that I think is very helpful. With the importance of the body in high speed on-road racing, why change it entirely to make a small adjustment to the handling........Should be pretty cool to have different wings to try, rather then the entire body and another paintjob, etc. I'm sure we'll have different wings as well as this one before too long!.....Jim
J Concepts is now offering a sedan wing that is designed to help with body tuning and eliminate the need to change the entire body. A concept that I think is very helpful. With the importance of the body in high speed on-road racing, why change it entirely to make a small adjustment to the handling........Should be pretty cool to have different wings to try, rather then the entire body and another paintjob, etc. I'm sure we'll have different wings as well as this one before too long!.....Jim
#2145
Well thanks alot guys. Thanks for the complaments. LOL. I know the pictures are horrible, but there wasnt alot of light in the pits and my camera got out of focus alot. Soz. I know your used to these high quality pics. but oh well.