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speedxl 09-15-2003 11:10 AM

hey guys that want a good conversion kit need to look at the quad 12 made by d powell i ran the car this weekend at the florida state series carpet race at the famous minregg club in tampa .
all i can say is the thing was hooked up.
i have never driven a car like this and made me feel confidant right out of the box. the thing drove on rails . i was on a TQ pace with the car on the last round of qualifying and missed it by 2 tenths i dumped. i had only 4 battery runs on the car . the chassis has the batt almost over the t-plate bring in the wait to the center
and dampaner tubes the chassis i ran was ssg and 2.5mm thick. this car by far is the best carpet car i have ever driven.
ive driven the rugrat that belonged to a friend and this thing is a lot nimbiler thru the infield due to the wieght distribution.
guys dont hesitate in getting this thing
you wont be disapointed.:nod:

David Root 09-15-2003 02:05 PM

Reedy KRs
 
Check out this post, It seems Krs need stiffer springs. I do not have one, but have read quite a lot. They had complaints of brushes wearing out in just a few runs, then went to stiffer brush springs and the thing came to life with much longer brush life.

See this post http://www.rccars.com/forums/showthr...cell#post14218

David Root

speedxl 09-15-2003 02:22 PM

there where some guys running the kr motors in 12 scale and having problems dumping. its not and efficiant motor.

tps 09-15-2003 02:24 PM

Stiffer springs will create even more amp draw...

speedxl 09-15-2003 03:03 PM

the guy that was running it had the timing low and was running green spring to get lite tension but was still dumping.

stormperson 09-15-2003 03:55 PM

Also just a note, 12th scale doesnt matter, at least to the big companies. So thats when Reedy made the KR they didnt care to test it out in 12th scales (I actually asked a local Reedy/AE driver about how good the KR was in 12th, and he said when he asked Mike Reedy that same question he said in so many words, "I dunno"). And at the Asphalt Nats it was painfully obvious how important (or lack there of) 12th scale was to the big companies, and Reedy's motors in general. Thankfully though they came out with the Platnium instead of denying that the KR isnt dialed for every form of racing. Kudos to them for it (and supporting 12th scale), since having two motors out simotaniously might make people second guess the KR, although trinity has the same deal going on the with EPIC/D5 (although its slightly different).

speedxl 09-15-2003 04:06 PM

yes mark there was low 12 scale evolment from the manufactures dave vera was the guy that ran the kr motor and in qualifying was whooping cyruls a@@ but due to the motor not being tested before in twelth scale he had a bad time with it josh and chris had motors that had 12 scale developement. but owell next time.
hopefully with the new growth in twelth scale world wide things will change at least here in florida 12 scale has gone from 3 guys to over 20 cars at our state series races and growing with every race.
there are at this moment 5 cars coming out for the first time for the next race in 1 month and another six waiting for the new season to start in october. that is 29 cars more than last season and growing the manufactures are seeing this and usually starts in florida get started elswhere guys 12 scale is coming back and hard mark my words on it !:nod:

EricF 09-15-2003 04:22 PM

Reedy KR....
I've been running a KR 11.2 for 4 months and I don't have problems dumping and that's with running 2 qual. with old (8 months +) 3000's. I have not experienced excessive brush wear or any of the aforementioned problems...

I run in the top 3-5 at my track, I’ve cut the motor 3 times, just about once a month racing weekly.

Have you guys even tried to run these motors? Root (did say he doesn't have one, just 2nd hand info.), Or are you guys just going to believe everything that you hear or read in forums?

Stormperson, Root, speedxl, you guys post a lot of useful information but sometimes I wonder :confused:... your comments on the KR are 2nd hand. I'm not saying it's the best motor out there, but why are you being so negative?

I'm not bashing, nor am I a top-level driver; I'm just making an observation.


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speedxl 09-15-2003 04:36 PM

fike dave vera is a factory driver for reedy
he's been in more a mains at a national level in twelth scale since the 80's than a lot of guys. he'll run the motor once or twice and will get a skimm of the topped and frsh brushes but remember its a national and i dont think but maybe a handfull of people can out finger him with the throttle and be more effeciant.
eventhough its second hand info straight from the horses mouth.
he was running a 10 double because its what mike gave him he didnt for see anyone racing 12 scale, the motor wasnt that efficiant
your running a 11 wind motor not the 8 and 9 wind motors these guys were running.
i run a lot of twelth scale here in florida and have tested with mods i have test a kr touring car motor and a trinity motor of the same wind but desiigned for 12 scale
the effeciancy is crappy compared to the trinity motor . a 12 scale motor is for twelve scale and ten scale is for tenth scale, .

safaridog 09-15-2003 04:42 PM

Speedxl, What do you reccommend for a motor?

speedxl 09-15-2003 04:50 PM

it depends what class youll be racing in.
what batterys you have and the track
trinity motors are good !
for stock and modified .
everyone has thier own preference!
if youre not that experianced then a 12 double would be good for you.
i kinda need more info on what you want so i can give you a better answer.

EricF 09-15-2003 04:54 PM

Speedxl,
With that being said I will agree with you, that at that level of competition maybe the motors are not good enough... but how many of us average racers can even run a 8 or 9 turn anything:D I know that I can't.

So what motors do you like? What seems to work best you you?

Eric

speedxl 09-15-2003 05:06 PM

fike peak motors do well and so do the trinity motors for aslong as i been racing the trinity motors have always done well for me. keep in mind all the manufactures motor lineups are changing with new design so what ever i know is for the older motors i havent tried any of the new quad magnets besides truthfully the majority of the racing i do is with stock motors and 19t c2 based motors here in florida now for next season we'll be racing with the adjustable 19t motors with quad magnetes ask me this question again in a couple months .
as far as the big dogs thier skills are at a point higher than a lot of people
i ve made the a main at a national level
and know that theres alot driving skill needed to acheive a high level some of the guys that ive raced against can take something ill dump with with ten seconds to go and strecth it for another minute and a half . its not just their equipment its skills! and they have got alot.

safaridog 09-15-2003 06:26 PM

I run a 11x2 ti on a 60'x36' track in my 1/12th on carpet. The track is going to 100'x 48' by november so i like to motor up a bit for Sh!ts and giggles. I ussually place top 3 and batts are not a problem.

Sorry for sounding like a newbie, in way I am. I'm more of a nitro guy.:p

stormperson 09-15-2003 07:17 PM

The info/comments I have been getting are straight from full factory drivers (from both the Reedy and Trinity side of the fence), which are probably better sources that I ever will be! lol:D ;) When a factory driver tells your something is wrong with their stuff or company, you know that they probably arent making it up.

As far as Dave at the Nats, he did an amazing job espically considering what he had to work with. Also in 12th scale, josh is almost untouchable, so you have to consider that as well.

As far as club racing with mod motors, for carpet a 19t motor isnt always a bad idea. Last winter when we had a big Speedmerchant crowd at my local track, I ran a 19t, i think DavidL and Bruce did as well, and they were plently fast (and we have a 100 foot straight).

Although I wouldnt suggest dipping below a 12 turn unless you really need to and know that you can handle it and make your times faster and just as consistant as with a slower motor.


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