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Old 07-04-2011 | 03:21 PM
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Yes as mentioned you will need tires and a body, also you will need the split pack 1s lipo that Speedzone sells; unless your track is behind the curve and still using nimh cells.
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Old 07-04-2011 | 05:08 PM
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I think that kit actualy comes with a set of tires, just not a set that is worth racing. For the proper set of tires, see what your local hot-shots are running and start from there. As for a body, if your new to 1/12 scale i suggest a .030" thick Parma high-downforce body, as its been stronger for me in a crash than other types.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
I think that kit actualy comes with a set of tires, just not a set that is worth racing. For the proper set of tires, see what your local hot-shots are running and start from there. As for a body, if your new to 1/12 scale i suggest a .030" thick Parma high-downforce body, as its been stronger for me in a crash than other types.
Ooops, you're correct that it does come with tires. I was thinking of usable tires. The included ones will be good to try out but you will really need to find out what tire compounds are working at the track.

One of our new 1/12 racers is doing OK with an older AE RC12L. He put the 1 cell on the right of the chassis and all the electronics on the left side. It has nice speed but doesn't transition well.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 12:06 PM
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The older CRC kits came with Grey rears and Purple fronts, a decent tire choice, at least for carpet, certainly usable for learning. If that's what is included in the T Fource kit I would just use them.

Placing the battery on one side works but not nearly as well as using the Speedzone saddle pack. An excellent battery that brings all the advantages of running lipo to the t bar car:
http://www.speedzoneusa.com/estore/i...roducts_id=292
is shown as out of stock right now but they have always restocked so far
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Old 07-05-2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by odpurple
The older CRC kits came with Grey rears and Purple fronts, a decent tire choice, at least for carpet, certainly usable for learning. If that's what is included in the T Fource kit I would just use them.

Placing the battery on one side works but not nearly as well as using the Speedzone saddle pack. An excellent battery that brings all the advantages of running lipo to the t bar car:
http://www.speedzoneusa.com/estore/i...roducts_id=292
is shown as out of stock right now but they have always restocked so far
Any idea if Speedzone plan to do another pack with higher capacity? I was running at the NSW Title last weekend, the track was the same one used for the 2001 1/8th Worlds, and lots of people were having dumping issues. Anyone using a 5200 mAh pack for that event would have been well off the pace.

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Ok, so after some discussions with various people, I've got a candidate for a spec 12th class, and I want to do some testing.

The idea is 10.5 zero timing on the ESC (1S packs). There are some spec motor and ESC combo deals around for this for various other classes, so that's a plus. Also, a 10.5 with dynamic timing is a decent first Mod 12th set-up, so making the step up would require no new equipment.

Like I say, I'm going to do some testing to check the speed and driveability for new people, and I would like some starting suggestions for rollout/gearing.
If anyone has any experience with any zero timing 1S set-up at all, I'd really like to hear thoughts on rollout. Just need a starting point...
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Old 07-05-2011 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Radio Active
Any idea if Speedzone plan to do another pack with higher capacity? I was running at the NSW Title last weekend, the track was the same one used for the 2001 1/8th Worlds, and lots of people were having dumping issues. Anyone using a 5200 mAh pack for that event would have been well off the pace.



If anyone has any experience with any zero timing 1S set-up at all, I'd really like to hear thoughts on rollout. Just need a starting point...
I can see how runtime would be an issue for you on a huge track like that, but it's not a problem on most tracks in the US. I've run the Speedzone saddle at a number of tracks from small to what we consider large and have never even come close to using the packs full capacity. Also remember this: many packs ratings are BS. The battery sellers need to keep pace with each other so the numbers keep going up, I know of cases where the same battery has been re-labled to a higher number (nobody whose batteries I use in case anyone's reading my signature).

Anyway, I was advising a guy who just bought his first 1/12th car, and he would be ill-advised to run enough horsepower to dump the battery on any track while he is learning
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Old 07-06-2011 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by odpurple
I can see how runtime would be an issue for you on a huge track like that, but it's not a problem on most tracks in the US. I've run the Speedzone saddle at a number of tracks from small to what we consider large and have never even come close to using the packs full capacity. Also remember this: many packs ratings are BS. The battery sellers need to keep pace with each other so the numbers keep going up, I know of cases where the same battery has been re-labled to a higher number (nobody whose batteries I use in case anyone's reading my signature).

Anyway, I was advising a guy who just bought his first 1/12th car, and he would be ill-advised to run enough horsepower to dump the battery on any track while he is learning
Yeah, I agree with everything you just said.

I was just asking the question because batteries are improving, and it is a little tenuous there only being one ROAR approved 1S saddle pack. I don't like saying to people, sure pick up a cheap T-bar car, you'll be fine with the Speedzone saddle as long as...

The Speedzone pack is also a bit more expensive, not too much, but when the cars are so cheap anyway it can impact a little on people's thinking.
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Old 07-06-2011 | 12:09 AM
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I am looking for a part and i cant seem to find anywhere that stocks it

its is a Yokomo part
#SP4608S Hubs 12R5

I cant find them anywhere, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-06-2011 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Grassy
I am looking for a part and i cant seem to find anywhere that stocks it

its is a Yokomo part
#SP4608S Hubs 12R5

I cant find them anywhere, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-06-2011 | 11:50 PM
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Ok, so I'm chasing spur gears smaller than 65T (48P). If there is anyone here who races Stock 12th or something, where do you get yours from?

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Old 07-07-2011 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Radio Active
Ok, so I'm chasing spur gears smaller than 65T (48P). If there is anyone here who races Stock 12th or something, where do you get yours from?
RW Racing has 48p spurs down to 45 teeth: http://www.rwracing.co.uk/cars.html
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Old 07-07-2011 | 05:16 AM
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Many thks to all those who answered my question.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 09:37 PM
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I am starting to believe that Jaco is purposely producing Yellow-compound rear tires slowly to inconvenience us. Is the only way to get some to order and pay ahead of time and wait until Stormer or some other online hobby shop gets them in? My current set has 1400+ racing laps on them (thats no typo) and I need some new ones. If you guys have a source who still has some, I would appreciate the info.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 09:58 PM
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Have you tried orange? A lot of carpet racers switched from yellow to orange in the rear. Orange is the same tire except it has a harder band on the outside edge.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
I am starting to believe that Jaco is purposely producing Yellow-compound rear tires slowly to inconvenience us. Is the only way to get some to order and pay ahead of time and wait until Stormer or some other online hobby shop gets them in? My current set has 1400+ racing laps on them (thats no typo) and I need some new ones. If you guys have a source who still has some, I would appreciate the info.
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Have you tried orange? A lot of carpet racers switched from yellow to orange in the rear. Orange is the same tire except it has a harder band on the outside edge.
Orange is good for stock racing, but I find that yellow is what I need to lock in the car for 8 mins of mod carpet racing.

Yellow Jaco are very hard to find.
Not sure they are selling 12th scale tires at all lately...

I believe GS Hobby and A-Main had a few left.
Unless you want to go the HK route.
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