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Old 08-11-2009 | 11:14 AM
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TfnG, just a thought. Speedzone will be releasing a new saddle pack 1c lipo soon so if you choose to run the xray you will be able to without the issues of a brick pack. Myself I prefer the BMI to anything else on the market.
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Old 08-11-2009 | 12:35 PM
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thanks for the input guys. And thanks for the heads up on that battery.
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Old 08-11-2009 | 03:19 PM
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AE has released the RC12r5.1 that can use a 1s lipo or 4 cell still and the rear pod is brushless motor friendly.
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Old 08-11-2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrad
Top man thanks John, dont suppose you have sizes? I seen a pic of the new speed passion motors from the euro's, they are a shorter can and will have connectors directly on to the end of the motor, no more solder tabs....
I'm going to snap a pic of the new SP motor in the rear pod of a Speed Merchant Rev 5 in the next couple nights and I'll post it on here to show the new motor fitting
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Old 08-13-2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by John Stranahan
Conrad-My Ballistic 3.5 is 1.847 long to the shoulder. The narrowed end is .990 in diameter. Length of can is 2.080. I am told this is too much motor for a 1/12 scale. I imagine the whole series is the same size. No connectors please.
Thanks mate, it will be touch and go if it fits without needing to remove any material. I'd need to have a motor to check it properly but i think the motor pod would get off with a light shave at best so i wouldnt need to loose the extra mounting hole. Just need to wait and see if it will be homologated over here for 10.5 before stumping up the pennies.

I notice the lrp/nosram motors (x11/storm) are stepped as well but not as much as the novak from the pictures i've seen, does anyone have dimensions of these.


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I'm going to snap a pic of the new SP motor in the rear pod of a Speed Merchant Rev 5 in the next couple nights and I'll post it on here to show the new motor fitting
I seen a pic of that from the euro's but i'll be damned if i can find it again now i'm looking for it Apparantly the feedback from the drivers was the motor was smoother than the equivalent solder tab and there is a lower resistance drop using the connectors. Any chance you could get some sizes of the motor when you snap a pic Adam?
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Old 08-13-2009 | 08:02 AM
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Hey guys i have some lipo questions. I run 17.5 to start off. Now with lipo will all i need is one pack to get me through the race night or will i need two or three lipo packs? Also if i plan on running stock is it even werth using lipo or should i stick with nimh. I believe 13.5 is going to be the motor of choice for lipo corect? Im just torn if i should bother buying a muchmore discharger if im going to switch to lipo
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Old 08-13-2009 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Conrad
I seen a pic of that from the euro's but i'll be damned if i can find it again now i'm looking for it Apparantly the feedback from the drivers was the motor was smoother than the equivalent solder tab and there is a lower resistance drop using the connectors. Any chance you could get some sizes of the motor when you snap a pic Adam?
I'll have my hands on one of the new motors for my 12th on Monday and I'll get a couple pics then.
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Old 08-13-2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CREWMAN
Hey guys i have some lipo questions. I run 17.5 to start off. Now with lipo will all i need is one pack to get me through the race night or will i need two or three lipo packs? Also if i plan on running stock is it even werth using lipo or should i stick with nimh. I believe 13.5 is going to be the motor of choice for lipo corect? Im just torn if i should bother buying a muchmore discharger if im going to switch to lipo
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I've been running just one battery in 1/12th for the past few weeks. We run on a one hour heat rotation and charging hasn't been and issue if you put the pack on charge first thing after marshalling.

The downside of only one battery is less back to back practice time.
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Old 08-13-2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWMAN
Hey guys i have some lipo questions. I run 17.5 to start off. Now with lipo will all i need is one pack to get me through the race night or will i need two or three lipo packs? Also if i plan on running stock is it even werth using lipo or should i stick with nimh. I believe 13.5 is going to be the motor of choice for lipo corect? Im just torn if i should bother buying a muchmore discharger if im going to switch to lipo
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AFAIK, lipo and round cells will run in separate classes. I think all the major races this coming season are lipo only. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Round cells are going the way of the woolly mammoth. The motors are not changing, ie Stock is still 17.5, superstock is still 13.5, regardless of the battery. I personally think 1S lipo/17.5 stock will be the big class this year, but that will vary by track. Lower speeds, closer racing, less tire wear and parts breakage. The 1/12th equvilant of VTA, without the sanctioned hacking. You can buy several 1S lipos for a whole lot less than you'll spend on 4-6 round cell packs and a costmuchmore discharge tray. Also, good luck finding high quality round cells these days.
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Old 08-13-2009 | 02:27 PM
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Hi guys, Special request looking for a DD 3D08 or a 3D12. if anyone has one please let me know. I have a thread in the wanted section, but figured id also mention it direct to the 12th scale guys. Thanks
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Old 08-13-2009 | 03:18 PM
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You guys probably get this all the time but I am looking to start 1/12 and I have a few questions so I can pick a vehicle:

1) What cars will 1S lipo work with without it being a hack job?
2) what cars are easy to fit the brushless motors in (see AE has a new 12R5.1 for this?)
3) What cars are considered "Current" tech, and what are considered old tech?
4) What cars seem good for beginners on 17.5 power and have room to grow?
5. If doing 1S lipo, what all is needed exactly and which manufacturers sell stuff to do it?

I know that specifics like shore rating and setup will be track dependent, but If there are things that are just not ran nowadays that I can avoid now would be great to know like certain types of tires, etc.

Thanks!
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Old 08-13-2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
You guys probably get this all the time but I am looking to start 1/12 and I have a few questions so I can pick a vehicle:

1) What cars will 1S lipo work with without it being a hack job?
2) what cars are easy to fit the brushless motors in (see AE has a new 12R5.1 for this?)
3) What cars are considered "Current" tech, and what are considered old tech?
4) What cars seem good for beginners on 17.5 power and have room to grow?
5. If doing 1S lipo, what all is needed exactly and which manufacturers sell stuff to do it?

I know that specifics like shore rating and setup will be track dependent, but If there are things that are just not ran nowadays that I can avoid now would be great to know like certain types of tires, etc.

Thanks!

1) BMI, Speedmerchant are the only two that I know for sure have lipo specific chassis, but the CRC will accomidate the 1s without any mods.

2) The BMI RR car has the brushless centered pod, I belive the Speedmerchant, 12r5.1, and CRC now are also.

3) BMI, Speedmerchant 5.0, 12r5.1, Serpent S120 and Xray are all new designs in the last yr, although the S120 and Xray are baised on T-bar designs which are not as lipo friendly.

4) I run the BMI and imo you cannot buy a better car for any level, but all the top models can do the job when setup right.

5) Car, 1s lipo, and booster or RX pack are the only items that are specific to running 1/12 lipo. I'd recomend the booster, tekin RS, and a new 5000mah 1s lipo, with the BMI car of course.
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Old 08-13-2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
You guys probably get this all the time but I am looking to start 1/12 and I have a few questions so I can pick a vehicle:

1) What cars will 1S lipo work with without it being a hack job?
2) what cars are easy to fit the brushless motors in (see AE has a new 12R5.1 for this?)
3) What cars are considered "Current" tech, and what are considered old tech?
4) What cars seem good for beginners on 17.5 power and have room to grow?
5. If doing 1S lipo, what all is needed exactly and which manufacturers sell stuff to do it?

I know that specifics like shore rating and setup will be track dependent, but If there are things that are just not ran nowadays that I can avoid now would be great to know like certain types of tires, etc.

Thanks!
1, 2, 3, 4: Speed Merchant Rev5 Lipo:


5: You would be well suited to go with the standard small electronics that 12th scale usually requires, and a booster. Others have had luck with the TQ, or the hongkong unit. Personally, I have run a 7.4v lipo rx pack, and the Novak booster. The booster is for the receiver and servo operating voltage. If you decide to go the lipo rx pack route, make sure you use electronics that can handle the high voltage, or get a regulator. It is far easier to club race with a booster, though.
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Old 08-13-2009 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth_RT
AFAIK, lipo and round cells will run in separate classes. I think all the major races this coming season are lipo only. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Round cells are going the way of the woolly mammoth. The motors are not changing, ie Stock is still 17.5, superstock is still 13.5, regardless of the battery. I personally think 1S lipo/17.5 stock will be the big class this year, but that will vary by track. Lower speeds, closer racing, less tire wear and parts breakage. The 1/12th equvilant of VTA, without the sanctioned hacking. You can buy several 1S lipos for a whole lot less than you'll spend on 4-6 round cell packs and a costmuchmore discharge tray. Also, good luck finding high quality round cells these days.
I race with a couple of heavily sponsored guys and have heard them say there running 17.5 at Cleveland. My take on it is, it should be 17.5 for non sponsored and then 13.5 is the big boys. I would personally run SS cause I want to see if I can hang with them. Plus stock is no fun for me. There almost as fast as SS but they feel super slow. Really starting to look like 17.5 is gona be THE class for 1/12th as much as I hate to admit it.

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Old 08-13-2009 | 08:52 PM
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I race with a couple of heavily sponsored guys and have heard them say there running 17.5 at Cleveland. My take on it is, it should be 17.5 for non sponsored and then 13.5 is the big boys. I would personally run SS cause I want to see if I can hang with them. Plus stock is no fun for me. There almost as fast as SS but they feel super slow. Really starting to look like 17.5 is gona be THE class for 1/12th as much as I hate to admit it.

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