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InspGadgt 12-30-2008 05:58 PM

I believe his site is under reconstruction so it is probably easiest just to PM here at RC Tech.

jph 12-30-2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by InspGadgt (Post 5228196)
I believe his site is under reconstruction so it is probably easiest just to PM here at RC Tech.

Cool, does he have bearings also?

odpurple 12-30-2008 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by jph (Post 5228215)
Cool, does he have bearings also?

Yes, but ceramics only :cool:

Turbonium 12-30-2008 08:51 PM

question...

i have some decent wire i got from another place, but its 18ga. says its "high-strand count copper wire"... would that be big enough to use to the motor running the 3.7 lipo/13.5 combo? or would i be better off running something else?

P2 12-30-2008 09:07 PM

18g is too thin....go with the OD Racing wire, It's the best :nod:

Bob-Stormer 12-30-2008 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by P2 (Post 5229081)
18g is too thin....go with the OD Racing wire, It's the best :nod:

I beg to differ that it "depends". I've tried the smaller wires. Anybody know the gauge of the wire that brush shunts are made of? Didn't slow down brushed motors any... ;)

and doesn't electricity travel on the outside of wires? So low count 16 or high strand count 18. hmmm. I might be all wet on that "how electricity flows" thing. I haven't actually cared to look or remember for many years. I go with what looks the coolest. sad ain't it. ;)

<---just being argumentative, but it does "depend". It's not a permanent installation, it's six hits with the soldering iron and 12" of wire. Try it! :)

Try it wtih both wires.

Trips 12-30-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob-Stormer (Post 5229124)
I beg to differ that it "depends". I've tried the smaller wires. Anybody know the gauge of the wire that brush shunts are made of? Didn't slow down brushed motors any... ;)

I don't know how true it is, but Big Jim Greenemeyer always used to say that the shunts were good for ten amps or so, and that the majority of the current going into the motor was carried through the brush hoods right into the surface of the brush. I know I once raced a car for a whole race day with a broken shunt and didn't notice until I took the motor out to cut it before the main... I was suprised it ran at all without that shunt...


Originally Posted by Bob-Stormer (Post 5229124)
and doesn't electricity travel on the outside of wires? So low count 16 or high strand count 18. hmmm. I might be all wet on that "how electricity flows" thing. I haven't actually cared to look or remember for many years.

It's known as the "skin effect" and if I remember right it was said to apply more to high frequency alternating current... I suppose the high switching rates of modern ESC's would make it apply to us, but I don't know for certain.


Originally Posted by Bob-Stormer (Post 5229124)
I go with what looks the coolest. sad ain't it. ;)

Not sad at all... I'm not as fast as was fifteen years ago, but my cars look cooler... and if you can't go fast... LOOK fast!

andrewdoherty 12-30-2008 09:49 PM

Knowing you Wes, I can guarantee you won't feel the difference between 16 and 18 gauge of the same quality, much less high quality 18 gauge vs average 16 gauge. Along the lines of Bob's post, the solder joints we create at the PCB on the esc and the motor tabs on our current BL motors create much higher resistance than 18 gauge wire IMHO. :)

Bob-Stormer 12-30-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 5229224)
... I'm not as fast as was fifteen years ago, but my cars look cooler... and if you can't go fast... LOOK fast!

Like this? :)

mkdut 12-30-2008 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bob-Stormer (Post 5229124)
I beg to differ that it "depends". I've tried the smaller wires. Anybody know the gauge of the wire that brush shunts are made of? Didn't slow down brushed motors any... ;)

and doesn't electricity travel on the outside of wires? So low count 16 or high strand count 18. hmmm. I might be all wet on that "how electricity flows" thing. I haven't actually cared to look or remember for many years. I go with what looks the coolest. sad ain't it. ;)

<---just being argumentative, but it does "depend". It's not a permanent installation, it's six hits with the soldering iron and 12" of wire. Try it! :)

Try it with both wires.

You are correct that the current flows on the surface. More strands is better because there's more surface area. But the trade off with a high strand 18 gauge is that the voltage drop is greater with the 18.

InspGadgt 12-30-2008 10:09 PM

Well all my goodies have finally arrived and I'm in process of building my DB12RR conversion kit :) Thanks to OD for the great 16awg wire I got from him :) I also wanted to mention something I haven't seen posted here yet that I picked up. CRC has a new flexy sensor harness wire...Man this is a very flexy sensor wire...it's a noodle! Definitely worth taking a look at for 1/12th racers if you haven't already.

ffactory666 12-30-2008 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by InspGadgt (Post 5229307)
Well all my goodies have finally arrived and I'm in process of building my DB12RR conversion kit :) Thanks to OD for the great 16awg wire I got from him :) I also wanted to mention something I haven't seen posted here yet that I picked up. CRC has a new flexy sensor harness wire...Man this is a very flexy sensor wire...it's a noodle! Definitely worth taking a look at for 1/12th racers if you haven't already.

Wondering if it's the same as the TQ sensor wire , just got some from Stormer and same thing it's like a noodle.

Trips 12-30-2008 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bob-Stormer (Post 5229246)
Like this? :)

EXACTLY like that... Sah-WEET!!

adam lancia 12-31-2008 12:52 AM

Thanks for the shock and wire clarification gentlemen, that's a great help!

InspGadgt 12-31-2008 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 5229408)
Wondering if it's the same as the TQ sensor wire , just got some from Stormer and same thing it's like a noodle.

Might be...didn't know TQ had one too now...cool


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