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PizzaDude 11-23-2007 03:07 AM

Korey,

Most important thing to look at is bump-steer.
Most likely in either flat or angled position you might get loads of bump, or you could virtually get it to zero bump.
Needless to say for ease of handling and consistency zero bumpsteer = best.

good luck.

protc3 11-23-2007 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by PizzaDude (Post 3896165)
Korey,

Most important thing to look at is bump-steer.
Most likely in either flat or angled position you might get loads of bump, or you could virtually get it to zero bump.
Needless to say for ease of handling and consistency zero bumpsteer = best.

good luck.

very true for flat mounting but with angled mounting bump toe is naturally gone just from the verticle angle you get out of the turnbuckles. When you run angled servo,The turnbuckle is at the same angle as the upper arm. It is very hard to mess up:cool: Ackerman on the otherhand, you need to be carefull. too much can make the car a handfull. I try to get as much out as possible for carpet.

Korey Harbke 11-23-2007 08:40 AM

Yeah... the bump steer is pretty much gone. Just a tiny bit of bump in... but the crazy ackerman setup I know is going to make the car VERY interesting to drive... You know, the baaad kind of interesting haha.

In order to put an AE or CRC front end on the SP12X with the angled mounts I have to drill new holes from the servo mounts about 8mm back from the existing holes for their aluminum arm front end. I was thinking I had the bright idea to lay down the servo on the car with the CRC front end... but I guess I'll just have to stop by the hardware store and get a drill and countersink bit...

-Korey

Romac 11-23-2007 03:17 PM

Is any one running the Corally worlds front end on their SP12X?

If so does it bolt right on or is their some drilling that needs to be done (servo mounts etc)?

Thanks,

Rob

Jack Smash 11-23-2007 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by StuartC (Post 3896115)
While we’re on the subject of 19T motors, how are people setting up Money Motors for 1/12th?

At the moment it’s setup as it came out of my TC, Infinity brushes, std spring neg and hard spring pos. Are you generally supposed to run lighter springs in a 1/12th car?

Cheers

Atlas brushes, gold spring on Pos, copper spring on Neg. ;)

Jack Smash 11-23-2007 03:29 PM

Korey, I have run the car for months with the servo flat. You just need to do a little work raising the ballstud enough to get bump steer out. I had to run the car setup a bit different than everyone else. cant quite say it had more or less steering than anyone else it was just "different". I just bought a new servo so I could try the angle mounts and I am quite interested what the difference will be.

PizzaDude 11-23-2007 03:30 PM

I'm lazy and runing the original Corally front end.;)

Rob, to my knowledge Corally delivers the car built an all, so I'ld gather it bolds right on (front end for sure).
As far as the servo goes, I think they made a running change since their first releases as opposed to the Worlds car. The Later chassis have a litlle more distance between the servo mounting holes.

I'll see if I can get some more info on the chassis changes....

Korey Harbke 11-23-2007 05:42 PM

Yea, I ended up drilling the holes back 8mm from the rearmost servo mount holes. It gave much better geo with the angled mounts back. I had the flat servo setup fine as far as bumpsteer goes, but a lot of people don't pay much attention to the ackerman.

Like Jason was saying earlier, the crc front end has the ball studs closer to the center line of the car than the AE front end will make it have a lot mroe ackerman due to the short link. It makes the inside wheel turn A LOT more than the outside... making it drive really funky.

The angled servo mount setup is going to work good though. It has a much more acceptable amount of ackerman, and next to zero bump steer with very little effort.

After I have some time on the sp12X I'll post a setup for those looking for a starting point.

-Korey

Korey Harbke 11-23-2007 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Romac (Post 3897437)
Is any one running the Corally worlds front end on their SP12X?

If so does it bolt right on or is their some drilling that needs to be done (servo mounts etc)?

Thanks,

Rob

I have just a US kit... not the worlds kit yet... So I'm not sure if they actually made different holes for the servo mounts yet. If you have the current euro or US spec kits you will have to drill the servo mount holes a little further back than what is already done for you.

-Korey

PizzaDude 11-23-2007 10:42 PM

It certainly looks that way.

Romac 11-23-2007 11:23 PM

Thanks for the info on the front ends.

I was racing tonight a broke another of the stock steering knuckle arms.:flaming:

So I'm switching out the front end with the GENX one. I'll see how that works.:nod:

I also broke a t-bar have those been a problem on the car?:eek:

Thanks,

Rob

Korey Harbke 11-24-2007 01:47 AM

T bars are always something that can break. I usually check mine after every run for any stress marks or anything weird. I do know that on the sp12X the graphite part the tbar connects to in the rear pod is a weak point IF you use all three screws. It seems like the current trend is to go with a thinner tbar and running only 2 screws in the tbar to help smooth the car over bumps and such, even on high grip carpet.

-Korey

HRCRACER123 11-24-2007 07:31 PM

Hey does anyone know if the body holes for a cefx and a crc 3.2r are in the same locations?

I was looking at a body for sale but it has the holes pre-drilled in it and was curious if it would fit? Thanks..

quietstorm76 11-24-2007 07:46 PM

rc12l4 gearing help
 
What's a good starting gear ratio for a P2K2 pro or C027 on a small semi technical track. By small I mean 6 sec. laps with a 19turn.

C_O_jones 11-24-2007 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Smash (Post 3897454)
Atlas brushes, gold spring on Pos, copper spring on Neg. ;)

Thanks Jack, and since your giving out all of this good info, what would be a good starting rollout, 80X40 track?
:D


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