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Old 07-28-2006 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by protc3
i dont think that will be a problem as long as i dont eat the walls.

You're supposed to eat up the rug, not the boards.......
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Old 07-28-2006 | 06:17 PM
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unfortunately we dont get much rug munching down here.
i get your point though.
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Old 07-28-2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by protc3
unfortunately we dont get much rug munching down here.
Too much information

I just finished installing my GTB and 6.5 in mt DB-12. We are running mod come hell or high water because i'm not taking it out trackside...lol!
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Old 07-28-2006 | 08:03 PM
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man,i set myself up for that one
i got my car all ready.these cars are gonna be little cruise missiles.its gonna be a blast.i should bring my camcorder and get some video.do you know if art is coming out this weekend?
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Old 07-28-2006 | 08:06 PM
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Has any-one tried using the 16 gauge wire on a brushless system? When I tried installing the LRP Sphere in my 12th it's hard to keep all of the extra wires from rubbing on the pod.
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Old 07-28-2006 | 08:14 PM
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yes, i ran the 16 to the motor. works out great
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Old 07-28-2006 | 08:53 PM
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There is a lot of stuff going on in a 1/12th car with brushless. I am curious how much heavier my car will be. The GTB is 2x the size of my Keyence with 2x as many power wires.

I hope Art is there I didn't bring the EZ-UP. I will pick it up on the way to the track just in case.
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Old 07-28-2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
There is a lot of stuff going on in a 1/12th car with brushless. I am curious how much heavier my car will be. The GTB is 2x the size of my Keyence with 2x as many power wires.

I hope Art is there I didn't bring the EZ-UP. I will pick it up on the way to the track just in case.
Adrian Im bringing my EZ up on sunday
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Old 07-28-2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CypressMidWest
You're supposed to eat up the rug, not the boards.......
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Old 07-28-2006 | 10:02 PM
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Hi all,

I was having a lot of trouble with Torque Steer on Wed night. We run 19t on Ozite carpet.

I checked tweak on two different setup stations and made sure I was dead at 0. I also checked ride height and for free movement of the suspension on my Hara. HAs anyone tried adding tweak to offset Torque Steer? I would think under acceleration this might help but what about during normal racing in the infield? Would this not cause strange behavior in the turns?

Thanks
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Old 07-28-2006 | 10:10 PM
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id check tires first... switch side/side both front and rear, or a different set, and see if it changes any.
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Old 07-29-2006 | 04:03 AM
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usually any funky acceleration steering is caused by a front end that is not properly shimmed or the diff.check your tweak with the penny method by putting a penny on each front tire and slowly lift the front dead center of the front of the car.you want both to drop at the same time.i check my tweak with both a tweak station and this way to tweak the front and rear of the car.a tweak station only checks the springs or t plate,it doesnt tell you if your kingpin shimming is equal.if it is not properly set one front wheel will become light under acceleration.if this doesnt work,try rebuilding your diff with new balls,washer and bearings.
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Old 07-29-2006 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rinkrat99
Hi all,

I was having a lot of trouble with Torque Steer on Wed night. We run 19t on Ozite carpet.

I checked tweak on two different setup stations and made sure I was dead at 0. I also checked ride height and for free movement of the suspension on my Hara. HAs anyone tried adding tweak to offset Torque Steer? I would think under acceleration this might help but what about during normal racing in the infield? Would this not cause strange behavior in the turns?

Thanks
Which way is it torque steering?

Things to check:
- Check the front end and make sure it 0's out and is square
- Make sure the front springs are of even height and nothing is binding the movement. One good hit can significantly compress a front spring.
- Make sure the esc wires aren't binding movement
- Make sure all the screws are tight in the roll center housing
- Try checking tweak without the damper rods/puck connected and see if it's different when connected (although, I don't think you can do this with the hara car??)
- Make sure the clamping hub on the left side isn't slipping
- Check your tire sizes on each side of the car to make sure they are the same size (Rotate your tires each run)
- Make sure the front track is square
- Make sure the rear track is square
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Old 07-29-2006 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rinkrat99
Hi all,

I was having a lot of trouble with Torque Steer on Wed night. We run 19t on Ozite carpet.

I checked tweak on two different setup stations and made sure I was dead at 0. I also checked ride height and for free movement of the suspension on my Hara. HAs anyone tried adding tweak to offset Torque Steer? I would think under acceleration this might help but what about during normal racing in the infield? Would this not cause strange behavior in the turns?

Thanks
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Beside what everyone has mentioned check for a seized bearing, and see if any hardware is dragging( loose screws).
Also make sure the axle nuts for the front wheels aren't too tight. Another thing to look at is make sure the left rear tire is'nt rubbing the pod, or screws that are to long rubbing the pod. If your running a t-plate car, check for a fatigued plate. Plus make sure you dont have a bent hinge pin up front, or castor block. Also check the chassis plate on a flat surface for tweak. These are things to check to along with everyone elses recommendations. Good Luck..


One more thing 12 scale by having an offset diff has a natural tendacy to torque steer. We set steering trim slightly off so while car is traveling it wont pull. A little counter trim helps!.

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Old 07-29-2006 | 03:24 PM
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hey adrian,
marcos ran his DB12 for the 1st time today at fast track.he was really pumped about how good it ran over his previous car.he ran is 3 star brushless for a bit after the race and said it was sick fast but still smoothe.
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