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#6841
Speedxl:
Yes, you can, but they are assymetrical - one edge has more material along it than the other, thus the steering to the left is impaired. And impaired is the right word to say, as 'assymetrical static steering' is just a theoretical opinion as far as I'm concerned - I really doubt this was 'designed-in' to the parts as the 'theory' suggests. I just don't buy it!
I might be hugely out-numbered, but at least I'm not alone and I'm certainly not going to be a sucker and just follow the crowd on this!!
Also, why are people using the losi arms and carriers? Hmmmmm!! I wonder!! (BTW, I only just found out about this!!)
Yes, you can, but they are assymetrical - one edge has more material along it than the other, thus the steering to the left is impaired. And impaired is the right word to say, as 'assymetrical static steering' is just a theoretical opinion as far as I'm concerned - I really doubt this was 'designed-in' to the parts as the 'theory' suggests. I just don't buy it!
I might be hugely out-numbered, but at least I'm not alone and I'm certainly not going to be a sucker and just follow the crowd on this!!
Also, why are people using the losi arms and carriers? Hmmmmm!! I wonder!! (BTW, I only just found out about this!!)
#6842
horatio i didnt say it was design into it for handling or turning reasons i said it was a part of the manfacturing cost to do it this way because they didnt want to make an extra mold for two c hubs. mind you this is my theoritical guess on this because i do know that these molds are expensive to make and they do wear out with time.
thats what i was trying to let you know ealier .
thats what i was trying to let you know ealier .
#6843
I understand what you are saying.
It's just that had they designed the 0 degree carrier to be symmetrical, it COULD STILL be used both sides with just one moulding tool, but without the existing 'less steering to the left' problem.
I also agree that AE decided it would make more economic sense to just live with the inadequacies with the shared left/right 0 degree c carrier, rather than go back to the CAD system and make another moulding tool.
Hope that makes sense!
It's just that had they designed the 0 degree carrier to be symmetrical, it COULD STILL be used both sides with just one moulding tool, but without the existing 'less steering to the left' problem.
I also agree that AE decided it would make more economic sense to just live with the inadequacies with the shared left/right 0 degree c carrier, rather than go back to the CAD system and make another moulding tool.
Hope that makes sense!
#6844
Tech Rookie
To everyone
Hey thanks for the reply guys, I really appreciate it
To Horatio
dude u look very pro, any tips for me, so that I can win with my TC3, how is the race over there (whereever u are)?
To Horatio
dude u look very pro, any tips for me, so that I can win with my TC3, how is the race over there (whereever u are)?
#6845
Well, it makes complete sense to me, but then you and I've been saying the same thing on this subject for aeons!
#6846
toe in
is there an easy way to approximate front toe in without a gauge? i mostly try to eyeball it and hope it's pretty equal. i have the rack centered and the wheels look pretty equal, about 2 degrees. i'm thinking of investing in a gauge, but i'm still debating rthe purchase and need my car race ready by Sunday's race.
#6847
toe-in
Prabably the only way I can think of is to measure tire to tire in front quadrant of tire...then the same on the "back" quadrant of tire. If they are the same, you have 0 toe. Prabably not very easy to do. RPM makes a toe gage that helps do this, but I don't think doing it that way is very accurate. (if you can, measure from the rim and not the rubber tire.
#6848
Take a sharpie
place the car on a stand so all four tires are off the ground and can freewheel
turn on the controller and car
run the wheels at a slow speed - apply the sharpie to each tire so that it makes a solid single line down the center of each.
Shut the car down
Take a ruler and measure the distance between the lines at the front of the tire and at the rear of the tire
Each 1/16th of an inch is about 1 degree.
place the car on a stand so all four tires are off the ground and can freewheel
turn on the controller and car
run the wheels at a slow speed - apply the sharpie to each tire so that it makes a solid single line down the center of each.
Shut the car down
Take a ruler and measure the distance between the lines at the front of the tire and at the rear of the tire
Each 1/16th of an inch is about 1 degree.
#6849
Tech Fanatic
Originally posted by Boomer
Well, it makes complete sense to me, but then you and I've been saying the same thing on this subject for aeons!
Well, it makes complete sense to me, but then you and I've been saying the same thing on this subject for aeons!
LOL
jk
#6850
Re: toe in
Originally posted by tc3rookie
is there an easy way to approximate front toe in without a gauge? i mostly try to eyeball it and hope it's pretty equal. i have the rack centered and the wheels look pretty equal, about 2 degrees. i'm thinking of investing in a gauge, but i'm still debating rthe purchase and need my car race ready by Sunday's race.
is there an easy way to approximate front toe in without a gauge? i mostly try to eyeball it and hope it's pretty equal. i have the rack centered and the wheels look pretty equal, about 2 degrees. i'm thinking of investing in a gauge, but i'm still debating rthe purchase and need my car race ready by Sunday's race.
As I always say, go ahead and buy the best stuff, because you will end up with it sometime later anyway, only costing yourself money and agony. Ex: I bought 4 chargers before I finally bought a turbo 35.
The easiest way to measure toe w/o a gauge is to use calipers or a ruler as Boomer stated.
#6851
Originally posted by Horatio
Proficar:
Do the losi arms allow for greater lock without having to file the carrier? I'd be interested to know.
Proficar:
Do the losi arms allow for greater lock without having to file the carrier? I'd be interested to know.
#6852
hudy
i have been looking into the hudy thing, and i'm probably going to have to wait till christmas so i'll make due with a calipers/ruler until then. i just hope i'm not way off.
#6853
or, if your do not have a hudy system, what you can do is put the car up vertically resting on its rear bumper, and use a camber guage., you use a small level to make sure the car is straight up and down...
#6854
Tech Rookie
Measuring toe in/out
I have a eagle racing gauge to measure the front toe in/out , but i am just wondering, do u guys measure the front toe in/out while the radio is on or the radio has to be off when measuring the toe?
because one of my friends told me that I should turn the radio on when measuring my toe, but everytime I move the steering the degree changes (cause me a headache), any tips for me?
Thanks guys
because one of my friends told me that I should turn the radio on when measuring my toe, but everytime I move the steering the degree changes (cause me a headache), any tips for me?
Thanks guys
#6855
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Alfa Romeo Body
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