16LikesTamiya F104 Pro!
08-18-2010, 04:28 AM
#3151
that being said, I went with a Peak Performance PowerFlo 4000mah Pack w/Deans
its rounded like a stick pack and fits in the F104 chassis WITHOUT modifications
Sadly, its outta stock at stormer 
I just naturally went looking for the ones with the deans connectors - plus i went specifically looking for a pack with deans
08-18-2010, 10:28 AM
#3154
No worries K. I've gotten relatively skilled at soldering 
Looks like i'll be running this thing strictly on carpet. Not sure if the track will require foam or rubbers yet, but by reading ya'lls previous post, I should definitely wear the foam tires on asphalt prior to running on carpet? That way all the carpet and shit doesnt stick to the tires. I dont have a tire truer but I can always use someones.
Thanks for the help! Can't wait to get this beast on th track!
08-18-2010, 11:14 AM
#3155
Originally Posted by J-VET
If you get the F-60 top deck it will work as long as the battery fits in the space. The Bannana plugs go towards the back. Thats how I run my car for TCS. Much cheaper then a new battery. As for the Pro top deck I just cut the front back and used 2mm spacers where the top deck met the servo mounts. Hope this helps
08-18-2010, 12:04 PM
#3156
The pro uses carbon fiber for its chassis, the F60 uses carbon composite.
08-18-2010, 02:37 PM
#3157
Tech Adept
Just a thought, but on one of the other F1 RC threads on the forums there is a guy, MikeR, I believe who is with Exotek, they make a beautiful graphite chassis for the HPI F1 car.
Anyway, he has raced in the Ultimate F1 Series I believe, and won, using a 1/18 scale 1800mah lipo pack. The pack is much smaller and lighter than a 1/10 lipo pack and yet provides enough power and run time to get the job done, while saving a lot of space on the chassis. The rules don't stipulate that you have to use a 1/10 pack, so long as it is no more than 2S.
I'm wondering if this might be the future way to go with F1 rc racing as battery placement and space on a cramped F1 chassis is always at a premium, and if a 1/18 lipo pack can do the job, why not use them instead. They also cost less then the 1/10 packs!
Seems like a win-win to me!! Any thoughts?
Anyway, he has raced in the Ultimate F1 Series I believe, and won, using a 1/18 scale 1800mah lipo pack. The pack is much smaller and lighter than a 1/10 lipo pack and yet provides enough power and run time to get the job done, while saving a lot of space on the chassis. The rules don't stipulate that you have to use a 1/10 pack, so long as it is no more than 2S.
I'm wondering if this might be the future way to go with F1 rc racing as battery placement and space on a cramped F1 chassis is always at a premium, and if a 1/18 lipo pack can do the job, why not use them instead. They also cost less then the 1/10 packs!
Seems like a win-win to me!! Any thoughts?
08-18-2010, 02:53 PM
#3158
No worries K. I've gotten relatively skilled at soldering Looks like i'll be running this thing strictly on carpet. Not sure if the track will require foam or rubbers yet, but by reading ya'lls previous post, I should definitely wear the foam tires on asphalt prior to running on carpet? That way all the carpet and shit doesnt stick to the tires. I dont have a tire truer but I can always use someones.
Thanks for the help! Can't wait to get this beast on th track!
08-18-2010, 03:56 PM
#3159
Just a thought, but on one of the other F1 RC threads on the forums there is a guy, MikeR, I believe who is with Exotek, they make a beautiful graphite chassis for the HPI F1 car.
Anyway, he has raced in the Ultimate F1 Series I believe, and won, using a 1/18 scale 1800mah lipo pack. The pack is much smaller and lighter than a 1/10 lipo pack and yet provides enough power and run time to get the job done, while saving a lot of space on the chassis. The rules don't stipulate that you have to use a 1/10 pack, so long as it is no more than 2S.
I'm wondering if this might be the future way to go with F1 rc racing as battery placement and space on a cramped F1 chassis is always at a premium, and if a 1/18 lipo pack can do the job, why not use them instead. They also cost less then the 1/10 packs!
Seems like a win-win to me!! Any thoughts?
Anyway, he has raced in the Ultimate F1 Series I believe, and won, using a 1/18 scale 1800mah lipo pack. The pack is much smaller and lighter than a 1/10 lipo pack and yet provides enough power and run time to get the job done, while saving a lot of space on the chassis. The rules don't stipulate that you have to use a 1/10 pack, so long as it is no more than 2S.
I'm wondering if this might be the future way to go with F1 rc racing as battery placement and space on a cramped F1 chassis is always at a premium, and if a 1/18 lipo pack can do the job, why not use them instead. They also cost less then the 1/10 packs!
Seems like a win-win to me!! Any thoughts?
08-18-2010, 06:42 PM
#3160
Tech Adept
Greg, I went back and re-checked that thread that showed MikeR's HPI F1 car with that 1/18 lipo pack and he says it only weighs about 110 grams or 4 ounces!! So the weight savings is huge!! It is a Team Scream 1800 mah 35C hardcase lipo pack that he used. He was the winner of the day in the Ultimate F1 series.
I think he is on to something here and Greg, your findings do seem to support that. I really do believe that going to 1/18 lipo packs is the way to go in the future for F1 rc racing!
I think he is on to something here and Greg, your findings do seem to support that. I really do believe that going to 1/18 lipo packs is the way to go in the future for F1 rc racing!
08-18-2010, 09:05 PM
#3163
In the run up to my TCS race, we tested many batteries from 3200mAh Orion Carbon packs up to Thunder Power 5000mAh/40C packs. The lighter packs always had the best lap times, and usually they were the lowest mAh packs. Weight seemed to be disproportionately important in this particular application (TCS rules). For reference, a 3200mAh Carbon pack weighed ~200g and a 5000mAh Thunder Power pack weighed ~300g. That's a 100g difference!
08-18-2010, 09:07 PM
#3164
Originally Posted by J-VET
The F-60 kits have a recess on each side in the back for the bullet connectors. No need to cut the top deck. I'm not sure why they dont do the same on the Pro top deck.
actually, i don't believe that's the case...
i'm attaching a shot from each manual - and both decks physically look the same, just one is fiberglass and one it carbon
This is the case. I have one of each. My stock f104 pro top deck got damaged so I cut it to fit. Then for TCS since that was not allowed I got a F-60 top deck and use it with bullet connectors. No modifications necessary. The bullet connectors fit just to the left and right of the friction plate with no problems.
The F-60 kits have a recess on each side in the back for the bullet connectors. No need to cut the top deck. I'm not sure why they dont do the same on the Pro top deck.
actually, i don't believe that's the case...
i'm attaching a shot from each manual - and both decks physically look the same, just one is fiberglass and one it carbon
This is the case. I have one of each. My stock f104 pro top deck got damaged so I cut it to fit. Then for TCS since that was not allowed I got a F-60 top deck and use it with bullet connectors. No modifications necessary. The bullet connectors fit just to the left and right of the friction plate with no problems.