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Cain 12-28-2011 09:08 AM

so what is considered a "safe" stock software to use on the GT2.0 ESC series that you don't have blow up concerns but still get some boosting benefits, etc?

morgoth 12-28-2011 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by morgoth (Post 10083371)
Hey guys,

I just bought a 10.5T Speed Passion V3 for my Xray T3.
I'm looking for a good starting FDR for indoor. The track is about 14m*30m. The other tracks I drive on are about the same. (Currently, I drive with a FDR of 6.4 on our track with a 17.5T boosted motor and it's pretty close I think.)

Anyone with a similar setup?

M-Technic 12-28-2011 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 10091077)
so what is considered a "safe" stock software to use on the GT2.0 ESC series that you don't have blow up concerns but still get some boosting benefits, etc?

If you want something REALLY safe, you can run the 119_Mod software as it really limits the amount of boost.

But you should be fine running 323_Stock, just go conservative with the settings and work your way up.

MatJ 12-28-2011 01:52 PM

Hello Everyone,

Just had a quick question, is it possible to run the Speed Passion GT 2.0 LPF without a fan on the heatsink if running 13.5 pro stock with no boost what so ever (I havn't even upgraded my ESC since I got it)
I race in England, indoor carpet.
The temps can go between 2° to 20° celcius, I'm asking this because if it's possible to not run the fan, it will save me some space for electronics :D
Thank you:)

M-Technic 12-28-2011 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by MatJ (Post 10092047)
Hello Everyone,

Just had a quick question, is it possible to run the Speed Passion GT 2.0 LPF without a fan on the heatsink if running 13.5 pro stock with no boost what so ever (I havn't even upgraded my ESC since I got it)
I race in England, indoor carpet.
The temps can go between 2° to 20° celcius, I'm asking this because if it's possible to not run the fan, it will save me some space for electronics :D
Thank you:)

It should be OK. We've run a boosted 7.5t with no fan, the ESC got quite hot but was still OK even with that setup.

freakyfreakyflo 12-28-2011 09:56 PM

hello
i look for a 21.5 motor for f104. i look at speedpassion v3 but then i see 1 cell v3 21.5 motor. do these go with 2 cell battrey?

thank

jake95 12-28-2011 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by freakyfreakyflo (Post 10093985)
hello
i look for a 21.5 motor for f104. i look at speedpassion v3 but then i see 1 cell v3 21.5 motor. do these go with 2 cell battrey?

thank

yes it does

freakyfreakyflo 12-28-2011 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by jake95 (Post 10094054)
yes it does

many thanks. is there noticable performance difference from 1 cell motor on 2 cell to a normal motor on 2 sell? and the sportman motor, is this slow?

thanks

jake95 12-29-2011 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by freakyfreakyflo (Post 10094207)
many thanks. is there noticable performance difference from 1 cell motor on 2 cell to a normal motor on 2 sell? and the sportman motor, is this slow?

thanks

i have tried in a touring car compared to normally v3 it is very smoth.it didnt seem any slower just smother

mattwoodcraft 12-29-2011 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by freakyfreakyflo (Post 10094207)
many thanks. is there noticable performance difference from 1 cell motor on 2 cell to a normal motor on 2 sell? and the sportman motor, is this slow?

thanks

i use these in my F104 pro its a great motor and yep smooth for the F1 to

iwkyb 12-29-2011 05:11 AM

Hello all, new to the forum and also new to the brushless system

I am currently running a 13.5 MMM SP motor on a tekin RS pro for 1/10 TC. Was wondering what would be a good starting gear ratio for 13.5 boosted.

Also is it true that I should not run anymore than 64 degrees total of timing advance? and is the ballend timing on the MMM calibrated to the software timing? ie. if I am running 11 degrees on the motor - then I shouldn't run more than 53 degrees on software

thanks for the help

M-Technic 12-29-2011 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by iwkyb (Post 10094659)
Hello all, new to the forum and also new to the brushless system

I am currently running a 13.5 MMM SP motor on a tekin RS pro for 1/10 TC. Was wondering what would be a good starting gear ratio for 13.5 boosted.

Also is it true that I should not run anymore than 64 degrees total of timing advance? and is the ballend timing on the MMM calibrated to the software timing? ie. if I am running 11 degrees on the motor - then I shouldn't run more than 53 degrees on software

thanks for the help

The speed control will only apply 64* of timing even if you have more than that programmed into your setup. You can also run motor timing on top of the 64* with caution, it will work, you are just riding a fine line of over timing the motor and causing too much heat.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought you were talking about the SP speedo, not Tekin. Tekin will allow you to run full boost and full turbo (75* total) but I am not sure that their settings are actual full degrees of timing. 64* is just a guideline that Tekin states, most people I know run more than that plus some motor timing.

Solara 12-29-2011 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 10091077)
so what is considered a "safe" stock software to use on the GT2.0 ESC series that you don't have blow up concerns but still get some boosting benefits, etc?

None....

If boost is actually that good and safe, ROAR will keep them running for stock. And there will be no blinky mode....

I would say, use our setup on the SP site, they were all tested, but they are no garantee the fastest because you might use different motor then our driver does and also different track, different layout and different condition.

Solara 12-29-2011 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by MatJ (Post 10092047)
Hello Everyone,

Just had a quick question, is it possible to run the Speed Passion GT 2.0 LPF without a fan on the heatsink if running 13.5 pro stock with no boost what so ever (I havn't even upgraded my ESC since I got it)
I race in England, indoor carpet.
The temps can go between 2° to 20° celcius, I'm asking this because if it's possible to not run the fan, it will save me some space for electronics :D
Thank you:)

Definitely yes...I have yet to mount the fan when I am running NO TIMING software and the ESC are very cool...just check esc temp when the race is done, just for the safe side...

Nilks 12-30-2011 02:36 AM

2 Attachment(s)
As promised, here is my setup for 17.5T boosted using the LRP X12 motor and Speed Passion GT2.0 Pro with 323Stock software.

That LRP X12 is really a pain. It gets hot no matter what you do. You can gear it anywhere between FDR 6.0-10.5 and it still gets hot (100+ deg C is "normal"). You really need to find the sweet spot for your way of driving, which is why I actually post 2 setups here.

The first is my own setup. I drive quite "smooth" and not to much on the throttle. The other setup is my teammate's setup. He is a lot more on the throttle than I am, so he can't use my setup.

The motor(s) gets around 75-80 deg Celcius after a 5 min heat.

A note for those who wish to use the LRP X12 for boosted: Use the 4-dot insert unless you want to buy a new motor very soon!


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