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Old 11-29-2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KELVIN KHNG
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I was using the Novak Ballistic 17.5 motor. Any idea what other adjustments do I have to do to my motor or is getting the SP 17.5 V3.0 motor the only option?
How much timing are you using on the Novak Motor?

What is your ESC set to settings wise....what are the numbers 1-15?

You dont need the SP motor I was just saying that the settings I used was with the SP motor.
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Old 11-29-2010 | 02:46 PM
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The set ups for the first 11 steps are the same.. Only difference was that the last few were different..starting from the 12th step. 8, 1,3,1.

I had a timing of about 1 mark advancement on the novak 17.5 motor.

My gearing was 7.44 initially but was also slow when I brought it down to 6.5.
I think I will try your set up and move on from there.... It might be the punch and the delay which mattered..

Thank you for the help Kevin
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Old 11-29-2010 | 03:43 PM
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Kelvin....try it and keep an eye on the temp of the motor. Most times if you are running any Delay(14) on smaller carpet tracks then you will not see the full power of the ESC...and the ESC will feel soft on the bottom and almost feel like it "two speeds" where you get a sudden boost of power late on the straight or when you dont need it. On larger tracks with lower traction you can get away with running more Delay...but for most carpet tracks around us I always run the delay off and then you have to run a little higher on Super Charger Punch(15) to keep the temps in the motor lower.....like 3-5. I hope this helps you out...
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Old 11-29-2010 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KELVIN KHNG
Kevin

The set ups for the first 11 steps are the same.. Only difference was that the last few were different..starting from the 12th step. 8, 1,3,1.

I had a timing of about 1 mark advancement on the novak 17.5 motor.

My gearing was 7.44 initially but was also slow when I brought it down to 6.5.
I think I will try your set up and move on from there.... It might be the punch and the delay which mattered..

Thank you for the help Kevin
That's about 35 degrees of motor timing. Your over timed. Novaks 0 or middle position is 30 degrees with each mark 5 degrees. Turn the timing down in motor, adjust gearing, check temps.
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Old 11-29-2010 | 06:51 PM
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any new software release after 528 ?
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Old 11-29-2010 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by smilekt
any new software release after 528 ?
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Old 11-30-2010 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kwiksi
oit ... why .. do u already have ?
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Old 11-30-2010 | 02:53 AM
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Quick question. Just bought a Muchmore Fleta 3 second hand off a guy here in New Zealand. Can I put the same update on it as my SP 2.1 prostock esc?
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Old 11-30-2010 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by smilekt
any new software release after 528 ?
There is a beta release in test as stated by Solara:

Originally Posted by Solara
Our team drivers just received their prototype software for the STOCK Racing. Targetting for indoor carpet, small tight track layout...and 12th scale/10th WGT software. Especially the lower RPM ramp, and Supercharger boost/RPM range are revised....

Once the testing are done and approved...it will be listed on Speed Passion website for download.
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Old 11-30-2010 | 05:26 AM
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There is a beta release in test as stated by Solara:
Lets hope it makes public release before the end of the Carpet season, SP were quite late to the outdoor season in the UK, and again the Tekins have taken another step ahead - not in speed, but this time in motor temps, they are as quick with slightly more turbo and their motors are only running 45 degrees C, to keep up im pushing mine to 75-80 degrees C to get the speed with the Speed passion ESC - which its doing fine, I just worry about the temp.
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Old 11-30-2010 | 09:10 AM
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a motor tem of 75 to 80c is ok. don't worry about it.

how are gm and lrp doing in the UK?
or is it all Tekin an Speedpassion?
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Old 11-30-2010 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by irgo


Solara tell Speed Passion it's been too long....
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source Source
Switch if you want it that bad...
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Old 11-30-2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by geubes
Lets hope it makes public release before the end of the Carpet season, SP were quite late to the outdoor season in the UK, and again the Tekins have taken another step ahead - not in speed, but this time in motor temps, they are as quick with slightly more turbo and their motors are only running 45 degrees C, to keep up im pushing mine to 75-80 degrees C to get the speed with the Speed passion ESC - which its doing fine, I just worry about the temp.
Just keep in mind, SP also tests for mod(2 time world champions) as well as SC, Crawlers, zero Timing, etc. Tekin's main focus is the boosted stuff so they will produce more/quicker for this than anyone else.
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Old 11-30-2010 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by toptek
a motor tem of 75 to 80c is ok. don't worry about it.

how are gm and lrp doing in the UK?
or is it all Tekin an Speedpassion?
Who are gm and lrp?

In the right hands they win races - in average hands they are not even close.

yeh that temp range is fine for a final setting, but the margin for error is very narrow when experimenting with turbos etc on a new track.
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Old 11-30-2010 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by geubes
Who are gm and lrp?

In the right hands they win races - in average hands they are not even close.

yeh that temp range is fine for a final setting, but the margin for error is very narrow when experimenting with turbos etc on a new track.
manny drivers here run gm and lrp.

never run a sp only against it.

gm lrp and tekin are dominating here and ad my club tekin but that's because of the driver.
there are almost no sp drivers here. only now one.
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