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SRW141 08-29-2010 02:27 PM

I run SP13.5v3 with 10* timing on a track that is 70'x150'. My FDR is 5.5,
#12-6
#13-2
#14-3
#15-4

Motor temp. is 140 degrees.

S.A.W 08-29-2010 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Fred Hubbard (Post 7870492)
Take a look at the attached SC starting points guide to get you going. Also just as reference point to gain understanding I've also attached the GT 2.1 Prostock document for 422, don't get hung up on the numbers but again use it for understanding the different parameters.

I thought the pdf was for the early supercharger software ?
I have been using the Word instructions as a guide which are ok for a starting point but still find the timing needs to be turned up to get decent performance.


S.A.W Try the 107Stock and or 11.5T.

if you could do post the picture of your Track with a car on it.
let's see how it's scaled ? if you can.
Can't run 11.5t with the 13.5 class, have tried a 10.5 but too quick for me :sweat:

Best pic I can find, old but not changed much. Sorry no car on it for scale though.

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p...um_mar2003.jpg

tha Beast 08-29-2010 04:16 PM

hey guys went to run my car earlier today and im having problems with my turbo boost it does not kick in at all. i have had the boost off for a while now but i was just practicing today and wanted to try it out anyway this is what im running SP esc GT2.0 lpf with a 13.5 orion motor i have it set to boost level 6 and rpm 4000 and .4 throttle delay. it seems to only kick in when the car has stopped for a few seconds but not ever when i need it to.....what am i doing wrong?????:cry:

g12314 08-29-2010 08:16 PM

I see a lot of people looking for help with setups, especially getting the SC settings dialed in. In order to offer help, we need to know the following:

1. All of your ESC settings
2. Your motor brand & physical timing
3. Your FDR
4. Your track conditions: Tight or open, how long the straight is, etc..

FDR, Motor Timing, and ESC settings are not one size fits all. The above will help all of us help you make the adjustments required to get the most out of your setup.

Jimmy

irgo 08-29-2010 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by g12314 (Post 7872280)
I see a lot of people looking for help with setups, especially getting the SC settings dialed in. In order to offer help, we need to know the following:

1. All of your ESC settings
2. Your motor brand & physical timing
3. Your FDR
4. Your track conditions: Tight or open, how long the straight is, etc..

FDR, Motor Timing, and ESC settings are not one size fits all. The above will help all of us help you make the adjustments required to get the most out of your setup.

Jimmy

i started to like what you do here jimmy,..

irgo 08-29-2010 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by S.A.W (Post 7870639)
I thought the pdf was for the early supercharger software ?
I have been using the Word instructions as a guide which are ok for a starting point but still find the timing needs to be turned up to get decent performance.



Can't run 11.5t with the 13.5 class, have tried a 10.5 but too quick for me :sweat:

Best pic I can find, old but not changed much. Sorry no car on it for scale though.

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p...um_mar2003.jpg

wow s.a.w thats a large track youve got there, i would not suggest 13.5 there. You can try mod there with 8.5T, thats meant you must be able to handle 10.5 with stock sc software :-)

Fred Hubbard 08-29-2010 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by S.A.W (Post 7870639)
I thought the pdf was for the early supercharger software ?
I have been using the Word instructions as a guide which are ok for a starting point but still find the timing needs to be turned up to get decent performance.

I think you meant the opposite that the word doc is the early SC, which is true but again I included the doc in order to give you clarity as to what each adjustment does which is why I said not to get hung up on the numbers. Don't worry at first it's all a bit confusing but if you start to tune using the SC step by step you will gain more understanding and be able to feel the changes on the track. It just takes time which can't be avoided;)

S.A.W 08-30-2010 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by Fred Hubbard (Post 7872794)
I think you meant the opposite that the word doc is the early SC, which is true but again I included the doc in order to give you clarity as to what each adjustment does which is why I said not to get hung up on the numbers. Don't worry at first it's all a bit confusing but if you start to tune using the SC step by step you will gain more understanding and be able to feel the changes on the track. It just takes time which can't be avoided;)

With the pdf document at the begining 'starting from scratch' it dosen't say what to start #12 & #13 or #4 & #9 ? it gives you suggestions later on under motor size sections.

I did try tuning with this document but found the car to slow, found the Word document a better starting guide.

I probably don't understand excatly what the settings are doing. I might go and give the pdf document another go, with my track pic above should I then start with a fdr of 6.25 ?

Is there anyway to first get the car geared correctly for the track then start adjusting the supercharger settings ?

How would you set you your gearing and supercharger settings for a new track ?

Thanks.

irgo 08-30-2010 07:26 PM

Speed Passion GT 2.0 Pro 1000 A
 
Hello, just want to let you all know that,
speed passion GT 2.0 Pro is a 1000 Amp Burst capabilities.

It's the right reason to choose.

BoneCrusher 08-30-2010 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 7869961)
look at my setup a few pages ago I run full timing and boost and zero timing on the motor and is plenty fast :)

I got my 2.1 Prostock a few weeks back and set it up with Marcos 17.5 set-up exactly and using it on a smaller track with about 60 feet straight and it worked great. Used it on a even smaller track over the weekend and still worked great. Temperature was only 120 and I know my gearing is off. Just working on the driving a new car too and since Marcos just posted a Photon set up recently, will try that too!

Thanks Marcos!

Ivan

defcone 08-30-2010 09:55 PM

Question to Marcos, first off thanks for speedie setup works like a dream posted my personal best at the track I usually race at. The motor only gets to 41 deg celcius on a Sunday with ambient around 15-20? Is there anyway to get more out of the motor/esc?

Thanks in advanced.

S.A.W 08-31-2010 03:04 AM

Hi,

Does anyone run or tried their GT2.1 without the fan ? I run 13.5t wondered if it would be ok. Save's a little bit of weight without it and I need to loose some weight on that side of the car :sweat:

irgo 08-31-2010 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by S.A.W (Post 7878167)
Hi,

Does anyone run or tried their GT2.1 without the fan ? I run 13.5t wondered if it would be ok. Save's a little bit of weight without it and I need to loose some weight on that side of the car :sweat:

fine on gt2pro, running 2s with supercharge max torque settings with motor stock. :-) the gt 2.1 is a pro according to shawn palmer in this information. Infact its better temps,
the 2.1 had wider heat sink.

S.A.W 08-31-2010 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by irgo (Post 7878264)
fine on gt2pro, running 2s with supercharge max torque settings with motor stock. :-) the gt 2.1 is a pro according to shawn palmer in this information. Infact its better temps,
the 2.1 had wider heat sink.

Ok I might try it without the fan, I still have my GT2.0 but never tried that without the fan. I think my GT2.0 is slightly faster top end only buy a very very small amount :confused: probably not though ?

M-Technic 08-31-2010 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by S.A.W (Post 7878167)
Hi,

Does anyone run or tried their GT2.1 without the fan ? I run 13.5t wondered if it would be ok. Save's a little bit of weight without it and I need to loose some weight on that side of the car :sweat:

I run the fan cooling my motor instead of the speedo. Runs fine in 100*F ambient weather in south Florida.


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