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Old 04-06-2010 | 06:35 PM
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keep the faith guys, they are working on new software that will make the SP
controllers very,very fast. as soon as it has been tested and approved it will be sent out.

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Old 04-06-2010 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie_b
230/231 was released because it was deemed 'safe' for the user. 318 is still being tested by some of the drivers. Just because there is a newer version of a software doesn't mean it is safe for the end user...if you have read our previous posts, some of us have blown 3-4 motors testing new software. Im sure you wouldn't want to do that now would you?
When you say the motor blows, what actually happens to the motor. I've raced electric (brush) from 84-95, then nitro from 95-2009. I know what a nitro engine does when it blows up, but i'm yet to see a brushless let go.
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Old 04-06-2010 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Boz
When you say the motor blows, what actually happens to the motor. I've raced electric (brush) from 84-95, then nitro from 95-2009. I know what a nitro engine does when it blows up, but i'm yet to see a brushless let go.
The fun way is to blow up the rotor, but usually if you overheat the coils they weld themselves together and short out.
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Old 04-06-2010 | 09:07 PM
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ok me confused. here. i got the program to down load. but were do you check for updates. at all.
i have the lcd programer and the cable. hook up to my laptop and


can't figure out were the updates are me confused

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Old 04-06-2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boz
When you say the motor blows, what actually happens to the motor. I've raced electric (brush) from 84-95, then nitro from 95-2009. I know what a nitro engine does when it blows up, but i'm yet to see a brushless let go.
A Mass smoke ball emits from underneath your bodyshell, you can tell your motor is about to cook when you have excessive drag brake from the motor if you didn't have any dragbrake set into the speedie. That's what happened to mine.
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Old 04-07-2010 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by altreyx
wow... i use fdr 7,1 DMTS at 5 (15°) and DRRS at 6 on a circuit with a 25m of stright and rest is medium speed (at the end is a medium tech track).
But i never had the motor over 55°C (SP v3 10,5) and the esc over 22°C
For me you are using a little bit too much AMTS value...i suggest you to start with something more around at 15° and reduce a little bit your FDR (may be start at about 7,0 but depend on your track size)

Forgot to say i use the endbell timing over the motor a little bit less than +10 (i can say at about +8)

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ok . I have tested the +10 timing on the motor but the temperature is the same.
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Old 04-07-2010 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by defcone
you can tell your motor is about to cook when you have excessive drag brake from the motor if you didn't have any dragbrake set into the speedie..
Looks like i cooked another motor then. I have drag brake from hell right now.
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Old 04-07-2010 | 04:52 AM
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ok . I have tested the +10 timing on the motor but the temperature is the same.
Try the beta supercharger softwares, you'll have more high speed and less motor temp.
If you're in Monteux on sunday then I could update the software in your speedo.
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Old 04-07-2010 | 05:10 AM
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yes i was been in Monteux on sunday becanse it's my league . Why not!! thanks a lot

What's your value on the supercharger software??

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Old 04-07-2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Boz
When you say the motor blows, what actually happens to the motor. I've raced electric (brush) from 84-95, then nitro from 95-2009. I know what a nitro engine does when it blows up, but i'm yet to see a brushless let go.
Originally Posted by MikeXray
The fun way is to blow up the rotor, but usually if you overheat the coils they weld themselves together and short out.
yup! been there done that.... i went to temp my motor.. my temp gun said "ERR".

1 min later i temped it again. the endbell was at 240deg F. the internals melted together and i couldnt turn the rotor.
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Old 04-07-2010 | 02:10 PM
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Hello! Why some of Top Team Drivers remove the gold contacts from ESC, and and solder the wires like on LRP Sphere?
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Old 04-07-2010 | 02:42 PM
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2 reasons come to mind:

More efficient/ less voltage drop as there are less solder joints
Less chance of a bad joint or if they get hot unsoldering and coming off mid race.

Its hard to see why anyone uses them actually.

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Old 04-07-2010 | 03:01 PM
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And how they solder wire in ESC? I can see what the holes it's to small, and I cant insert the wire to the hole...
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Old 04-07-2010 | 05:00 PM
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You probably just need to clean out all the old solder so the holes are back to the original size.

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Old 04-07-2010 | 07:24 PM
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I will eventually play around with the Supercharger 230/231 software, but what is the best non-supercharger firmware for a 17.5 Touring Car? Thanks...
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