57LikesThe Speed Passion Thread
03-24-2010 | 05:34 AM
#3467
Tech Elite
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,812
From: Durban, South Africa
Hi guys just thought I would share my findings with you to help the guys get a starting point with the new firmware i ran (231) on GT 2.0 Pro in a Mi4LP with a SP 13.5 Ultra sportsman Series motor, with 5200 Lipo
Our track is a asphalt, outdoor, with a +-45 meter straight, fairly flowing & technical , we setup a practice day with the amb timing system for accurate results,
Day 1 - I started out at the recomended 7.0 FDR and we run foam tires here in SA so the roll out was about the 26 mm with 60 mm tires, which I initailly thought to be way too low, but gave it a few runs to get used to the new feel of the car and setting up the delays etc for the straight and wow !!!
very happy with what the car is capable of ! I tried going up in gearing about 6.0 FDR and the car was slower, flat on the infield and boosted too late on the straight, so i dropped to lower gearing 7.8 FDR and re-tested and the car was better infield but lacked the ooopmh the car had in its first run ... Skittee (who runs a Photon and Tekin ) were pushing each others times down all day we both smashed the tracks lap records by almost 3 tenths so we were both very happy with the days testing.
Day 2 - I setup the car back to the 7 FDR (which for our track was spot on)and 59mm tires and started experimenting with the punch and total boost settings, and found that I had to almost max the punch and Boost levels to get really good rip corner to corner, i even tried the 230 firmware (but ran too hot for my liking and no faster than 231) so i re-loaded the 231 and ended up with the following:
12) value 9 (Max)
13) value 2
14) value 5
15) value 2
after 5 min run my motor temped @ 68 celcius which is awesome (cooler than 110) and on day 2 I knocked another tenth off the lap record
so in summary SP have definatly found the speed to keep up and run quicker than the tekins and am eagerly awaiting the new revision which Adam/Shawn say's improves the mid range punch ! but very happy with the progress so far guys tx so much !!!
just hoping we can get a beta copy of the new stuff so that we here is SA can test and use at the upcomming nationals mid april ! (hint hint)
Our track is a asphalt, outdoor, with a +-45 meter straight, fairly flowing & technical , we setup a practice day with the amb timing system for accurate results,
Day 1 - I started out at the recomended 7.0 FDR and we run foam tires here in SA so the roll out was about the 26 mm with 60 mm tires, which I initailly thought to be way too low, but gave it a few runs to get used to the new feel of the car and setting up the delays etc for the straight and wow !!!
very happy with what the car is capable of ! I tried going up in gearing about 6.0 FDR and the car was slower, flat on the infield and boosted too late on the straight, so i dropped to lower gearing 7.8 FDR and re-tested and the car was better infield but lacked the ooopmh the car had in its first run ... Skittee (who runs a Photon and Tekin ) were pushing each others times down all day we both smashed the tracks lap records by almost 3 tenths so we were both very happy with the days testing.Day 2 - I setup the car back to the 7 FDR (which for our track was spot on)and 59mm tires and started experimenting with the punch and total boost settings, and found that I had to almost max the punch and Boost levels to get really good rip corner to corner, i even tried the 230 firmware (but ran too hot for my liking and no faster than 231) so i re-loaded the 231 and ended up with the following:
12) value 9 (Max)
13) value 2
14) value 5
15) value 2
after 5 min run my motor temped @ 68 celcius which is awesome (cooler than 110) and on day 2 I knocked another tenth off the lap record
so in summary SP have definatly found the speed to keep up and run quicker than the tekins and am eagerly awaiting the new revision which Adam/Shawn say's improves the mid range punch ! but very happy with the progress so far guys tx so much !!!
just hoping we can get a beta copy of the new stuff so that we here is SA can test and use at the upcomming nationals mid april ! (hint hint
)hi,
the same things happend to me last weekend, no good punch out of the cornerwith the 230 stock.
there was a guy with a speedpassion 3.0 13,5T and he uses the 107 stock and was faster than me.
so i tried the 107 stock with the X12 and it was much better out of corner,but with a FDR of 7,8 . but the LRP speedo driver are faster the first 10 meters on the straight, so i need more punch (supercharger) to have the same speed.
I think with X12 we need a low FDR ,because the higher FDR only makes more temp and no good good punch out of the corner.
the same things happend to me last weekend, no good punch out of the cornerwith the 230 stock.
there was a guy with a speedpassion 3.0 13,5T and he uses the 107 stock and was faster than me.
so i tried the 107 stock with the X12 and it was much better out of corner,but with a FDR of 7,8 . but the LRP speedo driver are faster the first 10 meters on the straight, so i need more punch (supercharger) to have the same speed.
I think with X12 we need a low FDR ,because the higher FDR only makes more temp and no good good punch out of the corner.
Seems the X12 motors are running plenty of timing like the Novak motors.
03-24-2010 | 05:59 AM
#3468
Hi guys just thought I would share my findings with you to help the guys get a starting point with the new firmware i ran (231) on GT 2.0 Pro in a Mi4LP with a SP 13.5 Ultra sportsman Series motor, with 5200 Lipo
Our track is a asphalt, outdoor, with a +-45 meter straight, fairly flowing & technical , we setup a practice day with the amb timing system for accurate results,
Day 1 - I started out at the recomended 7.0 FDR and we run foam tires here in SA so the roll out was about the 26 mm with 60 mm tires, which I initailly thought to be way too low, but gave it a few runs to get used to the new feel of the car and setting up the delays etc for the straight and wow !!! very happy with what the car is capable of ! I tried going up in gearing about 6.0 FDR and the car was slower, flat on the infield and boosted too late on the straight, so i dropped to lower gearing 7.8 FDR and re-tested and the car was better infield but lacked the ooopmh the car had in its first run ... Skittee (who runs a Photon and Tekin ) were pushing each others times down all day we both smashed the tracks lap records by almost 3 tenths so we were both very happy with the days testing.
Day 2 - I setup the car back to the 7 FDR (which for our track was spot on)and 59mm tires and started experimenting with the punch and total boost settings, and found that I had to almost max the punch and Boost levels to get really good rip corner to corner, i even tried the 230 firmware (but ran too hot for my liking and no faster than 231) so i re-loaded the 231 and ended up with the following:
12) value 9 (Max)
13) value 2
14) value 5
15) value 2
after 5 min run my motor temped @ 68 celcius which is awesome (cooler than 110) and on day 2 I knocked another tenth off the lap record
so in summary SP have definatly found the speed to keep up and run quicker than the tekins and am eagerly awaiting the new revision which Adam/Shawn say's improves the mid range punch ! but very happy with the progress so far guys tx so much !!!
just hoping we can get a beta copy of the new stuff so that we here is SA can test and use at the upcomming nationals mid april ! (hint hint)
Our track is a asphalt, outdoor, with a +-45 meter straight, fairly flowing & technical , we setup a practice day with the amb timing system for accurate results,
Day 1 - I started out at the recomended 7.0 FDR and we run foam tires here in SA so the roll out was about the 26 mm with 60 mm tires, which I initailly thought to be way too low, but gave it a few runs to get used to the new feel of the car and setting up the delays etc for the straight and wow !!!
very happy with what the car is capable of ! I tried going up in gearing about 6.0 FDR and the car was slower, flat on the infield and boosted too late on the straight, so i dropped to lower gearing 7.8 FDR and re-tested and the car was better infield but lacked the ooopmh the car had in its first run ... Skittee (who runs a Photon and Tekin ) were pushing each others times down all day we both smashed the tracks lap records by almost 3 tenths so we were both very happy with the days testing.Day 2 - I setup the car back to the 7 FDR (which for our track was spot on)and 59mm tires and started experimenting with the punch and total boost settings, and found that I had to almost max the punch and Boost levels to get really good rip corner to corner, i even tried the 230 firmware (but ran too hot for my liking and no faster than 231) so i re-loaded the 231 and ended up with the following:
12) value 9 (Max)
13) value 2
14) value 5
15) value 2
after 5 min run my motor temped @ 68 celcius which is awesome (cooler than 110) and on day 2 I knocked another tenth off the lap record
so in summary SP have definatly found the speed to keep up and run quicker than the tekins and am eagerly awaiting the new revision which Adam/Shawn say's improves the mid range punch ! but very happy with the progress so far guys tx so much !!!
just hoping we can get a beta copy of the new stuff so that we here is SA can test and use at the upcomming nationals mid april ! (hint hint
)
03-24-2010 | 06:34 AM
#3469
So Shawn or someone in the know, please give me some info to start with, and I'll try the Speed Passion at the next race if I can go and get the chance.
Last edited by Cain; 03-24-2010 at 06:45 AM.
03-24-2010 | 09:57 AM
#3471
Tech Initiate
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 27
From: Hong Kong
Hi everyone
I want to share my finding today.
Outdoor big track with 70m straight, I am running rubber spec Xray T3, 10.5T with 230 FW has following setting:
DRRS-7
AMTS-6
12-8
13-5
14-2
15-5
FDR-6.9
motor temp is 90C
The turbo start at the 2/3 straight that is too late and too hot, so I change to FDR7.3 and much better. Finially I run FDR-7.6 the turbo start at the first 1/3 of straight.
The other problem is the corner speed, not as fast as running 107 but overall is faster. Any suggestion for me to improve the corner exit? Thank you!
I want to share my finding today.
Outdoor big track with 70m straight, I am running rubber spec Xray T3, 10.5T with 230 FW has following setting:
DRRS-7
AMTS-6
12-8
13-5
14-2
15-5
FDR-6.9
motor temp is 90C
The turbo start at the 2/3 straight that is too late and too hot, so I change to FDR7.3 and much better. Finially I run FDR-7.6 the turbo start at the first 1/3 of straight.
The other problem is the corner speed, not as fast as running 107 but overall is faster. Any suggestion for me to improve the corner exit? Thank you!
03-24-2010 | 11:16 AM
#3472
Tech Addict
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 609
From: New Zealand
Hi everyone
I want to share my finding today.
Outdoor big track with 70m straight, I am running rubber spec Xray T3, 10.5T with 230 FW has following setting:
DRRS-7
AMTS-6
12-8
13-5
14-2
15-5
FDR-6.9
motor temp is 90C
The turbo start at the 2/3 straight that is too late and too hot, so I change to FDR7.3 and much better. Finially I run FDR-7.6 the turbo start at the first 1/3 of straight.
The other problem is the corner speed, not as fast as running 107 but overall is faster. Any suggestion for me to improve the corner exit? Thank you!
I want to share my finding today.
Outdoor big track with 70m straight, I am running rubber spec Xray T3, 10.5T with 230 FW has following setting:
DRRS-7
AMTS-6
12-8
13-5
14-2
15-5
FDR-6.9
motor temp is 90C
The turbo start at the 2/3 straight that is too late and too hot, so I change to FDR7.3 and much better. Finially I run FDR-7.6 the turbo start at the first 1/3 of straight.
The other problem is the corner speed, not as fast as running 107 but overall is faster. Any suggestion for me to improve the corner exit? Thank you!
Mike
03-24-2010 | 11:56 AM
#3474
Hello,
This should be the last update. Some setup has been fixed with the correct name.
Have fun.
Download Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CTJQ3TLY
This should be the last update. Some setup has been fixed with the correct name.
Have fun.
Download Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CTJQ3TLY
03-24-2010 | 02:14 PM
#3478
Tech Adept
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 181
I was testing and got it down to 26_118 with a 1.7 internal t2009. Felt like I needed a little more punch and the boost didn't come on hard enough. I tried all sorts of pinions but that felt over all best. I'm wondering if I change to 1.9 internal if it will be better?
03-24-2010 | 03:39 PM
#3479
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,228
From: Fort Wayne, IN
Anybody run their speedos with an Airtronics M8? If so I have a question.
I just got my Prostock 2.1 yest. and have a question on setup. The instructions say to setup the the epa to 100% up & down. My M8 values go to 140% max forward and 160% brake. I ran it this way on my LRP Sphere where their inst. say max for both. I don't have my buggy (Cougar) yet, so I cannot test.
Should I set both forward and brake at only 100% or the max values like I had on my LRP?
I've set it at 100% forward and brake and seems fine with a test motor in hand.
I just got my Prostock 2.1 yest. and have a question on setup. The instructions say to setup the the epa to 100% up & down. My M8 values go to 140% max forward and 160% brake. I ran it this way on my LRP Sphere where their inst. say max for both. I don't have my buggy (Cougar) yet, so I cannot test.
Should I set both forward and brake at only 100% or the max values like I had on my LRP?
I've set it at 100% forward and brake and seems fine with a test motor in hand.
Last edited by kwiksi; 03-24-2010 at 06:31 PM.
03-24-2010 | 08:49 PM
#3480
Tech Regular
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 496
From: San Diego, CA
Anybody run their speedos with an Airtronics M8? If so I have a question.
I just got my Prostock 2.1 yest. and have a question on setup. The instructions say to setup the the epa to 100% up & down. My M8 values go to 140% max forward and 160% brake. I ran it this way on my LRP Sphere where their inst. say max for both. I don't have my buggy (Cougar) yet, so I cannot test.
Should I set both forward and brake at only 100% or the max values like I had on my LRP?
I've set it at 100% forward and brake and seems fine with a test motor in hand.
I just got my Prostock 2.1 yest. and have a question on setup. The instructions say to setup the the epa to 100% up & down. My M8 values go to 140% max forward and 160% brake. I ran it this way on my LRP Sphere where their inst. say max for both. I don't have my buggy (Cougar) yet, so I cannot test.
Should I set both forward and brake at only 100% or the max values like I had on my LRP?
I've set it at 100% forward and brake and seems fine with a test motor in hand.
I have the GT2 LPF in a 2w buggy w/13.5. I run 140% on throttle, 86% on the brakes.
Rob.......