"Ask" Jilles Groskamp Tamiya 416 & 417, Team Orion Motors
#1096
Tech Rookie
Hey Frankgw,
You Can start with Jilles basic rubber set up it is very easy to drive and that setup and a few other setups for different track conditions can be found on this thread or on the tamiya trf website. This car is better than the xray and parts are cheaper. I sudjest jusy like the other guy said we can help if you tell us how you have the car setup allready including tires, body, and track conditions.
You Can start with Jilles basic rubber set up it is very easy to drive and that setup and a few other setups for different track conditions can be found on this thread or on the tamiya trf website. This car is better than the xray and parts are cheaper. I sudjest jusy like the other guy said we can help if you tell us how you have the car setup allready including tires, body, and track conditions.
Anyway, I race indoors on carpet with rubber and foam tyres. I'm just getting my head round the setup that is currently on the car. I previously ran a Corally RDX and some of the terminology is different. I will try and fill out a setup sheet when I have time for you to look at and comment. Meanwhile I will try one of the basic setups you suggested.
Cheers, Frank
Oh, and HI_808, I'm really disappointed that a magic fairy hasn't appeared to setup my car for me!
#1097
My apologies! I'm sorry that I came off sounding like that.
I was trying to say, I guess in a sarcastic way, that the 416 is a very capable chassis.
I was trying to say, I guess in a sarcastic way, that the 416 is a very capable chassis.
#1098
Tech Rookie
No problem sir.
I've been getting frustrated with the car. It is very 'pointy' and hard to drive smoothly. I've been searching through the forum and I have a few ideas to try. It seems the car is quite sensitive to ride height and droop settings. Something the old RDX didn't suffer from. Mind you it never had the turn-in that the 416 has.
Cheers, Frank
I've been getting frustrated with the car. It is very 'pointy' and hard to drive smoothly. I've been searching through the forum and I have a few ideas to try. It seems the car is quite sensitive to ride height and droop settings. Something the old RDX didn't suffer from. Mind you it never had the turn-in that the 416 has.
Cheers, Frank
#1099
Tech Apprentice
hi Jilles , looking at the photos from the latest ets i noticed the trf team are using the drive pulleys ie diffs spun round so the belt is now on the lipo side of the car, allowing radio gear to be placed further inboard, is this a new chassis being tested or have they just been cutting the bottom of the chassis to make room for the spun pulleys?
also do you know what software marc and victor were using with their SP esc's ?
cheers
mark
also do you know what software marc and victor were using with their SP esc's ?
cheers
mark
#1100
Tech Initiate
hi Jilles , looking at the photos from the latest ets i noticed the trf team are using the drive pulleys ie diffs spun round so the belt is now on the lipo side of the car, allowing radio gear to be placed further inboard, is this a new chassis being tested or have they just been cutting the bottom of the chassis to make room for the spun pulleys?
also do you know what software marc and victor were using with their SP esc's ?
cheers
mark
also do you know what software marc and victor were using with their SP esc's ?
cheers
mark
Thank you.
#1101
Tech Initiate
Magic Trick...
White Spur
then picture with shell off...
Black Spur...
Different chassis in 2 pictures Jilles ?
White Spur
then picture with shell off...
Black Spur...
Different chassis in 2 pictures Jilles ?
#1103
Probably 2 different chassis as body posts have different cut angles.
#1104
Tech Rookie
Two questions
Good at first to say to you that you are an exceptional pilot, a real phenomenon.
Good I you queria to ask:
Your do you use bearings abec.35 in your chassis?
Second
Your have you proved the new differentials of satellites?
And in any case they are better than those of balls.
I wait that continues being equal of simply and good person.
Luck
Vicente (Spain)
Good I you queria to ask:
Your do you use bearings abec.35 in your chassis?
Second
Your have you proved the new differentials of satellites?
And in any case they are better than those of balls.
I wait that continues being equal of simply and good person.
Luck
Vicente (Spain)
#1105
hey Jilles,
what sanwa servo you use??
BTW, did you pass my greetings to Atsushi??
cheers
Ali
what sanwa servo you use??
BTW, did you pass my greetings to Atsushi??
cheers
Ali
#1106
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
unless he's changed recently I think you'll find Jilles uses KO servos
I think our spanish friend here is asking (via a web translator)
1) do you use abec35 bearings?
2) have you tried the spec R geared diff, if so, is it better than the ball diff
I think the rest of the stuff is all compliments
Good at first to say to you that you are an exceptional pilot, a real phenomenon.
Good I you queria to ask:
Your do you use bearings abec.35 in your chassis?
Second
Your have you proved the new differentials of satellites?
And in any case they are better than those of balls.
I wait that continues being equal of simply and good person.
Luck
Vicente (Spain)
Good I you queria to ask:
Your do you use bearings abec.35 in your chassis?
Second
Your have you proved the new differentials of satellites?
And in any case they are better than those of balls.
I wait that continues being equal of simply and good person.
Luck
Vicente (Spain)
1) do you use abec35 bearings?
2) have you tried the spec R geared diff, if so, is it better than the ball diff
I think the rest of the stuff is all compliments
#1107
Is that dirt or has he drilled a hole in the shock cap?
#1108
Tech Apprentice
hey Master Jilles
How to deal with the Tamiya B3 tire?
Our Tamiya cup want to have a outdoor race and B3 to be the control tire.
After I test the B3 and feels not so good that compared with Sorex 36.
So, do you have some experience on B3? Do I need to have some "treatment" on the tire before use it?
Thanks!!!
How to deal with the Tamiya B3 tire?
Our Tamiya cup want to have a outdoor race and B3 to be the control tire.
After I test the B3 and feels not so good that compared with Sorex 36.
So, do you have some experience on B3? Do I need to have some "treatment" on the tire before use it?
Thanks!!!
#1109
Tech Initiate
info
hello jilles
I would like some advice
since the weight limit in the racing I do is I would like 1350g some advice on how to balance the car, where to put the weights etc. etc.
I state that I use lipo, esc Sxx tc LRP, LRP 5.5 motor, receiver and servo Sanwa 411dsss low profile of futaba
thank you in advance
I would like some advice
since the weight limit in the racing I do is I would like 1350g some advice on how to balance the car, where to put the weights etc. etc.
I state that I use lipo, esc Sxx tc LRP, LRP 5.5 motor, receiver and servo Sanwa 411dsss low profile of futaba
thank you in advance
#1110
Hello guys,
Just came back from two weeks of racing, one week of testing for Worlds in Germany and some days ETS racing before that.
- Stormperson
Normally most tyres work best with medium/soft feel of insert. A soft inserts gives more stable traction and prevent the rubber of overheating too much.
A hard inserts is faster but only works good when it is cooler.
- AZ416
Sometimes this happens that the wire comes unsoldered. This is most of the time that the motor gets too hot.
Try 12 AWG wire or solder with some silver.
Ofcourse it can be a faulty speedo but not sure.
- Extrememadness
I used the Serpent type of cleaning gum.
- P.I.M.P
My basic set-up should be always good starting point.
- soft springs, soft oil also helps for lower traction tracks.
- Mark
At this moment we test a lot of configuration with flipped belts, different chassis etc. This is the reason I had two cars at ETS but only was used for the picture. It's too close to the world champs now so not too much details can be revealed now. Don't know about the software Marc and Viktor used in their SP speedo's.
- Satwe
Viktor used standard configuration and moved the battery a little more outside to have good balance left and right.
-Vicente
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes, I use ABEC35 bearing.
WHat you mean by the differential of satellites?
- Ali,
Damn, I forget to tell Atsushim you know how it goes at races, always busy busy busy!! I tried a Sanwa small type servo, I think it's 801 type.
- jontang001
Honestly I don't know the Tamiya tyre so I can't help you with any advice.
I can only imagine that Sorex tyre should be better traction.
- biagio23
Good question! If you look closely at my car from ETS you see my electronics are very far inside. I flipped the belts and I move my battery as close to the front belt as possible. Additional weight was on my battery on the inside and outside.
Jilles
Just came back from two weeks of racing, one week of testing for Worlds in Germany and some days ETS racing before that.
- Stormperson
Normally most tyres work best with medium/soft feel of insert. A soft inserts gives more stable traction and prevent the rubber of overheating too much.
A hard inserts is faster but only works good when it is cooler.
- AZ416
Sometimes this happens that the wire comes unsoldered. This is most of the time that the motor gets too hot.
Try 12 AWG wire or solder with some silver.
Ofcourse it can be a faulty speedo but not sure.
- Extrememadness
I used the Serpent type of cleaning gum.
- P.I.M.P
My basic set-up should be always good starting point.
- soft springs, soft oil also helps for lower traction tracks.
- Mark
At this moment we test a lot of configuration with flipped belts, different chassis etc. This is the reason I had two cars at ETS but only was used for the picture. It's too close to the world champs now so not too much details can be revealed now. Don't know about the software Marc and Viktor used in their SP speedo's.
- Satwe
Viktor used standard configuration and moved the battery a little more outside to have good balance left and right.
-Vicente
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes, I use ABEC35 bearing.
WHat you mean by the differential of satellites?
- Ali,
Damn, I forget to tell Atsushim you know how it goes at races, always busy busy busy!! I tried a Sanwa small type servo, I think it's 801 type.
- jontang001
Honestly I don't know the Tamiya tyre so I can't help you with any advice.
I can only imagine that Sorex tyre should be better traction.
- biagio23
Good question! If you look closely at my car from ETS you see my electronics are very far inside. I flipped the belts and I move my battery as close to the front belt as possible. Additional weight was on my battery on the inside and outside.
Jilles