dado11g

iTrader: (1)

hey guys, i have a general question. what is the difference between the ms and non-ms??? are there any other versions?

thanks
marshal v.

JRRobiso

The std kit (non-ms) has the stardard arms & 3.0mm bottom plate. The ms version has the light weight rev arms (EVO4), 2.5mm bottom plate, re-designed f/r shock towers, re-designed motor heatsink & spur gear backing plate.

To view the difference of the two kits, click on the ff links :
TRF415
TRF415MS

Hope this helps.

JRRobiso

Additional note when you click on the TRF415 link, the pictures you see there are the prototype ones. The released version didn't not come w/ the spur gear backing plate & for the MS version it also came with white low friction belts, belt tensioner & TRF blue damper set.

dado11g

iTrader: (1)

thanks alot, im asking this for a friend. what car is better on carpet with foam tires?

JRRobiso

The better of the two kits for carpet is the standard kit due to thicker arms & bottom plate (3.0mm oppose to 2.5mm on the ms kit). For asphalt surface, the ms kit has more grip & the light weight arms react quicker than the std arms. Altough the downside (some may say 50/50 on this note) for the light weight arms that they are not that durable compared to the std arms. I guess it's all in the driver's hands to avoid hitting the boards/pipes on the track. But if somebody else pushes you in there, than it's beyond your control. The only thing you can do is slam on the brakes & close your eyes upon impact.

dado11g

iTrader: (1)

how is the durability of the std? he does hit some stuff.

Rick Draper

The standard 415 none MS version is the strongest car i have ever drove.

geeunit1014

iTrader: (14)

right it is extremely hard to break.have driven for almost a year w/ it, have only broke 1 lw arm, and 1 c-hub. i also have a question. i have a regular 415 with the reversible arms and ms shock towers. will it be any good on carpet with a spool?

Customworksking

iTrader: (74)

Tamiya wins!!!!!!! msx all the way

JRRobiso

I'm planning to install the light weight rev arms on my std 415 as well. Currently I run the car with a speedtech spool & locked ctr pulley @ my LH track w/c is asphalt. The car is like a rocket out of the corners. I have never ran the car on carpet. You may want to check prev pages back if someone posted their set-up. You may also want to check this link:

TryHard's TRF415 Set-ups

And also TAMIYA TRF415MSX - Mark Reinhard wins Foam Mod Class!!!!!!

Tamiya TRF Rules - TRF415MSX see you in December!!!!!!!

laro

Hey I'm thinking of buying a new carpet sedan. so I need help on this question.Is this the order of the cars for the 415.
415
trf 415
trf415ms
trf415msx and the final question is can you buy the stock 415 and buy a msx conversion and would it truly be upgraded all the way . thanks. or is the new car as mentioned at the tokyo show even newer than the trf415 msx. am I confused I think so.

odawg315

the 415 is the trf415, then the ms, now the msx conversion, will be for the ms kit, unless you have a trf415 with lwt suspension. there will be a new kit, the trf415 refine 2 which is the msx kit, it will have one or two upgrades the conversion wont have. if your waiting to get something id wait for the full kit, if you have an ms car then just get the conversion.

laro

I greatly appreciate the reply and how you made it clear. thanks

protouring

How did Mark R get 28mm foams to fit on his 415 msx?

thanks

Tommy Bergfeldt

Most probably by using PRO4 knuckles, more info on this mod can be read a few pages back. I'm not running it myself so i cant describe how to mount them.