3LikesTamiya TRF415
03-20-2007, 04:03 AM
Originally Posted by TryHard
Nexxus; Nope shouldn't be a need to change the swingshafts.
A few of us over here have been using wide blocks on the car on carpet (effectively using the MRE setup). For a Diff, I'd try B/A on the front, with X/D on the rear (giving 2deg of toe in).
Try and stick with White/Blue springs, as the stiffer spring will help intial reaction, and hold more corner speed. Roll bars aren't really needed on the rug (i find) as there shouldn't be any bumps... Try Blue/Blue if the car feels a little difficult to turn in, as you'll lose some steering with a diff over a one-way.
BTW, the setup I posted (here) has been used in both stock and 19t with good effect (both made A Finals at the Carpet Wars over here in the UK) so is pretty effective...
HiH
Ed
A few of us over here have been using wide blocks on the car on carpet (effectively using the MRE setup). For a Diff, I'd try B/A on the front, with X/D on the rear (giving 2deg of toe in).
Try and stick with White/Blue springs, as the stiffer spring will help intial reaction, and hold more corner speed. Roll bars aren't really needed on the rug (i find) as there shouldn't be any bumps... Try Blue/Blue if the car feels a little difficult to turn in, as you'll lose some steering with a diff over a one-way.
BTW, the setup I posted (here) has been used in both stock and 19t with good effect (both made A Finals at the Carpet Wars over here in the UK) so is pretty effective...
HiH
Ed
Do you recommend this as a starter? Same Tyres and gearing as I'd use at the Carpet track. What would need alterations for the short arms?
03-20-2007, 04:12 AM
Originally Posted by nexxus
http://www.thard.co.uk/setups/Maritime9-9-05.jpg
Do you recommend this as a starter? Same Tyres and gearing as I'd use at the Carpet track. What would need alterations for the short arms?
Do you recommend this as a starter? Same Tyres and gearing as I'd use at the Carpet track. What would need alterations for the short arms?
To use the short arms, bolt them on, and run the camber links at usual heights (I prefer the outer hole on the Rear hubs, makes the rear smoother). I'll have a think this evening and hopefully have some more pointers, I'll write up a sheet with suggestions for a base setup for you. BTW, is it an MSX or MRE your running?
Cheers
Ed
03-20-2007, 04:15 AM
Originally Posted by RocketRacer
i need some help with my setup.
i am currently running foams on outdoor asphalt. brushless mod. the biggest problem is have been experiencing is major understeer on mid corner and corner exit.
how can i try and overcome this problem?
my setup is as follows.
front
60w Oil
3 hole piston
Tam Blue spring
no stabilizer bar
5.5mm ride height
5mm rebound stroke/droop
.5mm spacer under inner camber link
4degree caster
2degree camber
1 degree toe out
Locked centre shaft and spool in front
shocks are on 2nd hole from inside on tower and outer hole on suspension arm
rear
50w Oil
3 hole piston
Tam Yellow Spring
5.5mm ride height
yellow stabilizer bar
6mm rebound stroke/droop
.5mm spacer under inner camber link
3mm spacer under outer camber link
0degree hub
3 degrees toe in
shocks are on 2nd hole from inside on tower and outer hole on suspension arm
i am currently running foams on outdoor asphalt. brushless mod. the biggest problem is have been experiencing is major understeer on mid corner and corner exit.
how can i try and overcome this problem?
my setup is as follows.
front
60w Oil
3 hole piston
Tam Blue spring
no stabilizer bar
5.5mm ride height
5mm rebound stroke/droop
.5mm spacer under inner camber link
4degree caster
2degree camber
1 degree toe out
Locked centre shaft and spool in front
shocks are on 2nd hole from inside on tower and outer hole on suspension arm
rear
50w Oil
3 hole piston
Tam Yellow Spring
5.5mm ride height
yellow stabilizer bar
6mm rebound stroke/droop
.5mm spacer under inner camber link
3mm spacer under outer camber link
0degree hub
3 degrees toe in
shocks are on 2nd hole from inside on tower and outer hole on suspension arm
Ed
03-20-2007, 04:33 AM
Originally Posted by TryHard
You could try less front droop. Also, how many shims do you have behind the ball studs on the steering cross beam?
Ed
Ed
03-20-2007, 04:40 AM
Originally Posted by TryHard
Yeah thats a pretty good setup, used it to get in the A at maritime (long time ago now though). Very tight technical track, so worth a shot
To use the short arms, bolt them on, and run the camber links at usual heights (I prefer the outer hole on the Rear hubs, makes the rear smoother). I'll have a think this evening and hopefully have some more pointers, I'll write up a sheet with suggestions for a base setup for you. BTW, is it an MSX or MRE your running?
Cheers
Ed
To use the short arms, bolt them on, and run the camber links at usual heights (I prefer the outer hole on the Rear hubs, makes the rear smoother). I'll have a think this evening and hopefully have some more pointers, I'll write up a sheet with suggestions for a base setup for you. BTW, is it an MSX or MRE your running?
Cheers
Ed
03-20-2007, 04:47 AM
Also. can I run the MRE lower deck (to make use of the air vents for the motor) or does it need some mods? Have heard some stories of changing steering positions, want to keep with the MSX set up, so the option is an MRE/MSXX lower deck, or a 4mm MSX lower deck.
03-20-2007, 08:44 AM
what can you say about the msx version? i will run it in paking lot pavement. do you think it will perform good in parking lots?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
03-20-2007, 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by nikkiesteban
what can you say about the msx version? i will run it in paking lot pavement. do you think it will perform good in parking lots?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
03-20-2007, 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by nikkiesteban
what can you say about the msx version? i will run it in paking lot pavement. do you think it will perform good in parking lots?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
Charles
03-20-2007, 12:09 PM
Originally Posted by nexxus
Also. can I run the MRE lower deck (to make use of the air vents for the motor) or does it need some mods? Have heard some stories of changing steering positions, want to keep with the MSX set up, so the option is an MRE/MSXX lower deck, or a 4mm MSX lower deck.
With regard to the bottom plates, yes you can use the one from the MRE or MSXX, as they both still have the holes drilled for the old steering system, so just a case of bolting it on.
HiH
Ed
03-20-2007, 12:19 PM
TryHard, do you have a possible base setup for my situation. Mod, foams, outdoor,asphalt. i am running a 3.5 Brushless motor in my MSXX. any help would be much appreciated.
03-20-2007, 12:47 PM
Hi RR,
I've never run foams, so I can't really help with that... Have a look at here, http://www.thard.co.uk/setups/pages/Foam.html, should be some setups that might help, although they are all for carpet.
HiH
Ed
I've never run foams, so I can't really help with that... Have a look at here, http://www.thard.co.uk/setups/pages/Foam.html, should be some setups that might help, although they are all for carpet.
HiH
Ed
03-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by tamiyarcracer
53877 is the only way I know
03-20-2007, 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by Tek Nickal
The steel spool outdrives for the TA05 work for the MSX spool, correct? I already wore out a pair of the delrin ones.
I'm pretty sure you can get them seperate from champ.HIH
Ed
03-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by TryHard
Yup they fit I'm pretty sure you can get them seperate from champ.
HIH
Ed
I'm pretty sure you can get them seperate from champ.HIH
Ed