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Old 03-20-2007, 05:03 AM   #17896
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Nexxus; Nope shouldn't be a need to change the swingshafts.
A few of us over here have been using wide blocks on the car on carpet (effectively using the MRE setup). For a Diff, I'd try B/A on the front, with X/D on the rear (giving 2deg of toe in).

Try and stick with White/Blue springs, as the stiffer spring will help intial reaction, and hold more corner speed. Roll bars aren't really needed on the rug (i find) as there shouldn't be any bumps... Try Blue/Blue if the car feels a little difficult to turn in, as you'll lose some steering with a diff over a one-way.

BTW, the setup I posted (here) has been used in both stock and 19t with good effect (both made A Finals at the Carpet Wars over here in the UK) so is pretty effective...

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http://www.thard.co.uk/setups/Maritime9-9-05.jpg
Do you recommend this as a starter? Same Tyres and gearing as I'd use at the Carpet track. What would need alterations for the short arms?
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:12 AM   #17897
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Do you recommend this as a starter? Same Tyres and gearing as I'd use at the Carpet track. What would need alterations for the short arms?
Yeah thats a pretty good setup, used it to get in the A at maritime (long time ago now though). Very tight technical track, so worth a shot

To use the short arms, bolt them on, and run the camber links at usual heights (I prefer the outer hole on the Rear hubs, makes the rear smoother). I'll have a think this evening and hopefully have some more pointers, I'll write up a sheet with suggestions for a base setup for you. BTW, is it an MSX or MRE your running?

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Old 03-20-2007, 05:15 AM   #17898
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i need some help with my setup.

i am currently running foams on outdoor asphalt. brushless mod. the biggest problem is have been experiencing is major understeer on mid corner and corner exit.

how can i try and overcome this problem?

my setup is as follows.
front
60w Oil
3 hole piston
Tam Blue spring
no stabilizer bar
5.5mm ride height
5mm rebound stroke/droop
.5mm spacer under inner camber link
4degree caster
2degree camber
1 degree toe out
Locked centre shaft and spool in front
shocks are on 2nd hole from inside on tower and outer hole on suspension arm

rear
50w Oil
3 hole piston
Tam Yellow Spring
5.5mm ride height
yellow stabilizer bar
6mm rebound stroke/droop
.5mm spacer under inner camber link
3mm spacer under outer camber link
0degree hub
3 degrees toe in
shocks are on 2nd hole from inside on tower and outer hole on suspension arm
You could try less front droop. Also, how many shims do you have behind the ball studs on the steering cross beam?

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Old 03-20-2007, 05:33 AM   #17899
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You could try less front droop. Also, how many shims do you have behind the ball studs on the steering cross beam?

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i am running it as per the manual, so there is a 1mm shim under the ball stud.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:40 AM   #17900
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Yeah thats a pretty good setup, used it to get in the A at maritime (long time ago now though). Very tight technical track, so worth a shot

To use the short arms, bolt them on, and run the camber links at usual heights (I prefer the outer hole on the Rear hubs, makes the rear smoother). I'll have a think this evening and hopefully have some more pointers, I'll write up a sheet with suggestions for a base setup for you. BTW, is it an MSX or MRE your running?

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It's an MSX (TRFMAD's old ride before he got the MRE)
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:47 AM   #17901
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Also. can I run the MRE lower deck (to make use of the air vents for the motor) or does it need some mods? Have heard some stories of changing steering positions, want to keep with the MSX set up, so the option is an MRE/MSXX lower deck, or a 4mm MSX lower deck.
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what can you say about the msx version? i will run it in paking lot pavement. do you think it will perform good in parking lots?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
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what can you say about the msx version? i will run it in paking lot pavement. do you think it will perform good in parking lots?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:04 PM   #17904
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what can you say about the msx version? i will run it in paking lot pavement. do you think it will perform good in parking lots?
what are the differences of msx from original 415..? and what is refine 2? is this the same with msx?
MSX is a very capable car it can work on any surface, i think Hupo still runs his instead of the MRE. MSX has LW suspension so it can change direction quicker and is usually the standard for outdoor racing. The MSX has also other little things such as blue shocks, gold Ti shock and suspension shafts and aluminion rear hubs.

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Also. can I run the MRE lower deck (to make use of the air vents for the motor) or does it need some mods? Have heard some stories of changing steering positions, want to keep with the MSX set up, so the option is an MRE/MSXX lower deck, or a 4mm MSX lower deck.
Attached is a base setup to try, it's a combination of the maritime one, with updates that I know work from my recent setups for the MRE.

With regard to the bottom plates, yes you can use the one from the MRE or MSXX, as they both still have the holes drilled for the old steering system, so just a case of bolting it on.

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TryHard, do you have a possible base setup for my situation. Mod, foams, outdoor,asphalt. i am running a 3.5 Brushless motor in my MSXX. any help would be much appreciated.

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Hi RR,

I've never run foams, so I can't really help with that... Have a look at here, http://www.thard.co.uk/setups/pages/Foam.html, should be some setups that might help, although they are all for carpet.

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The steel spool outdrives for the TA05 work for the MSX spool, correct? I already wore out a pair of the delrin ones.
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The steel spool outdrives for the TA05 work for the MSX spool, correct? I already wore out a pair of the delrin ones.
Yup they fit I'm pretty sure you can get them seperate from champ.

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Yup they fit I'm pretty sure you can get them seperate from champ.

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I bought some of the steel drive cups from somewhere on ebay (stellamodels?) i'm pretty sure champ can get just about anything. i placed my first order with them last week and they sure came through - got the MRE kit screw bags and 10 sets of the MRE sticker sheet sets too! i don't know if they parted out an MRE or what, but i go them
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