Tamiya TB-03
#1126
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No, you need to check the free play with what ever diff you run always. When I run a one way in my car I have to change the amount of shims I use versus when I have a spool. You might not even need shims, depends on how the parts you have fit your car. I know it seems to be a pain to do but saves you from getting frustrated with a broken car later. If you change your diffs back and forth a lot you can do what I do. Once I know how many shims I need for a diff, when I am not using it I put it in a small zip lock bag and with a marker write, 2 shims left, 4 shims right etc. on the bag. Then when I want to make a diff change I just make sure the shims are right and drop it in the car. I only use .1 shims so if you use .3 shims you would need to specify how many of those were needed.
#1127
No, you need to check the free play with what ever diff you run always. When I run a one way in my car I have to change the amount of shims I use versus when I have a spool. You might not even need shims, depends on how the parts you have fit your car. I know it seems to be a pain to do but saves you from getting frustrated with a broken car later. If you change your diffs back and forth a lot you can do what I do. Once I know how many shims I need for a diff, when I am not using it I put it in a small zip lock bag and with a marker write, 2 shims left, 4 shims right etc. on the bag. Then when I want to make a diff change I just make sure the shims are right and drop it in the car. I only use .1 shims so if you use .3 shims you would need to specify how many of those were needed.
EDIT: Also, I wish there was a better way to turnbuckles come off easier. I can get them off but when I do I feel like I am going to rip and arm off or break something since it comes off all of a sudden. If anyone knows any proper techniques for turnbuckles removal please let me know then.
Last edited by DriftWoof; 09-12-2009 at 03:55 AM.
#1128
Tech Addict
Not sure this is the right tread...
anyway...
Some of you may already have seen this but for those who don`t have....
enjoy..
http://fastestrc.blogspot.com/2008/0...iya-evo-5.html
anyway...
Some of you may already have seen this but for those who don`t have....
enjoy..
http://fastestrc.blogspot.com/2008/0...iya-evo-5.html
#1129
Well Damn it! I just got my 46mm swing shafts in and I installed them. They are so long they bind when I get the top link hooked up. I tried also pulling out the cushions in the drive cups with no luck. WTF I read a few pages back that 46mm were the correct shafts? I guess I should have got 44mm?
#1130
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Well Damn it! I just got my 46mm swing shafts in and I installed them. They are so long they bind when I get the top link hooked up. I tried also pulling out the cushions in the drive cups with no luck. WTF I read a few pages back that 46mm were the correct shafts? I guess I should have got 44mm?
How much camber are you running?
#1131
Well Damn it! I just got my 46mm swing shafts in and I installed them. They are so long they bind when I get the top link hooked up. I tried also pulling out the cushions in the drive cups with no luck. WTF I read a few pages back that 46mm were the correct shafts? I guess I should have got 44mm?
The 46 didn't bind on me but it was a tight fit, at which i didn't like it
#1132
I tried it with NO camber and it still binds. It binds badly and the driveshafts are bottomed out in the cups. I just switched back to the dog bones and its fine. I don't know what to think. The new ones are clearly longer than the dog bone+axle combo I took out.
#1133
Tech Regular
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TB03 CENTER ONE WAY
GUYS,
I HAVE FOUND OUT SOMETHING REGARDING MY PROBLEM WITH THE SHAFT BINDING. THERE WAS NO BINDING RIGHT NOW AFTER A LOOK INSIDE THE GEAR CASES. I FOUND OUT TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL RACERS THAT THE SHIMMING VARRIES WITH THE KIND OF GEAR CASE THAT YOU WILL USE. AS FOR ME I USE A CARBON REINFORCED GEAR CASE FRONT AND REAR. I USED ONLY ONE PIECE OF SHIMMING ON EACH SIDE.
HAVING SAID IM NOW USING A CENTER ONE WAY AND I NOTICE SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW IF ITS NORMAL OR NOT. I NOTICED THAT THE PROPELLER JOINT SET REAR GOES UP AND DOWN.
HERE'S A VIDEO ON IT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFngmwjx-NA
I AM NOW LEFT WITH THE KNUCKLE ARM MOTION TO NOT BEING STIFF FOR BEING STIFF WILL NOT LET THE SHOCKS DO ITS WORK. HAVE YOU GUYS TRIED SANDING THE KNUCKLE ARM OR USING DIFFERENT SHIMMING FOR THE KNUCKLE ARM TO SWING FREELY.
REFERENCE PICTURE IS ATTACHED
I HAVE FOUND OUT SOMETHING REGARDING MY PROBLEM WITH THE SHAFT BINDING. THERE WAS NO BINDING RIGHT NOW AFTER A LOOK INSIDE THE GEAR CASES. I FOUND OUT TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL RACERS THAT THE SHIMMING VARRIES WITH THE KIND OF GEAR CASE THAT YOU WILL USE. AS FOR ME I USE A CARBON REINFORCED GEAR CASE FRONT AND REAR. I USED ONLY ONE PIECE OF SHIMMING ON EACH SIDE.
HAVING SAID IM NOW USING A CENTER ONE WAY AND I NOTICE SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW IF ITS NORMAL OR NOT. I NOTICED THAT THE PROPELLER JOINT SET REAR GOES UP AND DOWN.
HERE'S A VIDEO ON IT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFngmwjx-NA
I AM NOW LEFT WITH THE KNUCKLE ARM MOTION TO NOT BEING STIFF FOR BEING STIFF WILL NOT LET THE SHOCKS DO ITS WORK. HAVE YOU GUYS TRIED SANDING THE KNUCKLE ARM OR USING DIFFERENT SHIMMING FOR THE KNUCKLE ARM TO SWING FREELY.
REFERENCE PICTURE IS ATTACHED
Last edited by Swift and Sleek; 09-12-2009 at 09:59 PM.
#1134
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Sorry to hear of your frustration. What suspension blocks are you using? If you have a variety of the blocks, run c/c or d/d up front and the 46mm axles should clear fine. You could also run the standard length reversible arms to get a little extra width. This will widen the front of your car. Is this binding only on the front or is it on the rear as well?
#1135
Tech Addict
iTrader: (3)
Not sure this is the right tread...
anyway...
Some of you may already have seen this but for those who don`t have....
enjoy..
http://fastestrc.blogspot.com/2008/0...iya-evo-5.html
anyway...
Some of you may already have seen this but for those who don`t have....
enjoy..
http://fastestrc.blogspot.com/2008/0...iya-evo-5.html
#1136
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I think I understand. I plan on just sticking the front one way and rear spool in and closing it until it breaks or needs to be clean(could be years since it's sealed?) I have to make sure there is no play and that the gears are meshing correctly? Not too tight though correct? Leave as much play as you would with the motor pinion and spur gear when installing a motor?
You pretty much got it You need a little bit of play so that the gears mesh without binding. Too much play and you lower the contact patch and risk breaking the tips of the gears off prematurely. And my reference earlier about spur gear/motor pinion mesh was just a example of how to CHECK the free play, not what the free play should be
EDIT: Also, I wish there was a better way to turnbuckles come off easier. I can get them off but when I do I feel like I am going to rip and arm off or break something since it comes off all of a sudden. If anyone knows any proper techniques for turnbuckles removal please let me know then.
You pretty much got it You need a little bit of play so that the gears mesh without binding. Too much play and you lower the contact patch and risk breaking the tips of the gears off prematurely. And my reference earlier about spur gear/motor pinion mesh was just a example of how to CHECK the free play, not what the free play should be
EDIT: Also, I wish there was a better way to turnbuckles come off easier. I can get them off but when I do I feel like I am going to rip and arm off or break something since it comes off all of a sudden. If anyone knows any proper techniques for turnbuckles removal please let me know then.
#1137
Sorry to hear of your frustration. What suspension blocks are you using? If you have a variety of the blocks, run c/c or d/d up front and the 46mm axles should clear fine. You could also run the standard length reversible arms to get a little extra width. This will widen the front of your car. Is this binding only on the front or is it on the rear as well?
If I use D blocks in the front it will make it narrower. I measured and the 1A is the widest set of the bunch. Maybe Im not sure what you are talking about....
I have not tried the swing shafts in the rear. I had the front lose a dog bone the first day I drove it so I figured that would be a good place to start.
Last edited by CSaddict; 09-13-2009 at 04:54 AM.
#1138
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[QUOTE=Swift and Sleek;6336062]GUYS,
I HAVE FOUND OUT SOMETHING REGARDING MY PROBLEM WITH THE SHAFT BINDING. THERE WAS NO BINDING RIGHT NOW AFTER A LOOK INSIDE THE GEAR CASES. I FOUND OUT TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL RACERS THAT THE SHIMMING VARRIES WITH THE KIND OF GEAR CASE THAT YOU WILL USE. AS FOR ME I USE A CARBON REINFORCED GEAR CASE FRONT AND REAR. I USED ONLY ONE PIECE OF SHIMMING ON EACH SIDE.
HAVING SAID IM NOW USING A CENTER ONE WAY AND I NOTICE SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW IF ITS NORMAL OR NOT. I NOTICED THAT THE PROPELLER JOINT SET REAR GOES UP AND DOWN.
HERE'S A VIDEO ON IT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFngmwjx-NA
I AM NOW LEFT WITH THE KNUCKLE ARM MOTION TO NOT BEING STIFF FOR BEING STIFF WILL NOT LET THE SHOCKS DO ITS WORK. HAVE YOU GUYS TRIED SANDING THE KNUCKLE ARM OR USING DIFFERENT SHIMMING FOR THE KNUCKLE ARM TO SWING FREELY.
REFERENCE PICTURE IS ATTACHED[/QUOTE
Like I said before, you have to check shimming when you change diffs/parts etc to make sure your tolerances have not changed. Its good that you did when you went to the carbon cases, but did you check things out when you put the center one way in? If you shim the center one way correctly, the up and down you are seeing on the prop joint should go away.
Yes, you can do either. I just sand my hub with a fine fingernail file just enough to free things up
I HAVE FOUND OUT SOMETHING REGARDING MY PROBLEM WITH THE SHAFT BINDING. THERE WAS NO BINDING RIGHT NOW AFTER A LOOK INSIDE THE GEAR CASES. I FOUND OUT TOGETHER WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL RACERS THAT THE SHIMMING VARRIES WITH THE KIND OF GEAR CASE THAT YOU WILL USE. AS FOR ME I USE A CARBON REINFORCED GEAR CASE FRONT AND REAR. I USED ONLY ONE PIECE OF SHIMMING ON EACH SIDE.
HAVING SAID IM NOW USING A CENTER ONE WAY AND I NOTICE SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW IF ITS NORMAL OR NOT. I NOTICED THAT THE PROPELLER JOINT SET REAR GOES UP AND DOWN.
HERE'S A VIDEO ON IT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFngmwjx-NA
I AM NOW LEFT WITH THE KNUCKLE ARM MOTION TO NOT BEING STIFF FOR BEING STIFF WILL NOT LET THE SHOCKS DO ITS WORK. HAVE YOU GUYS TRIED SANDING THE KNUCKLE ARM OR USING DIFFERENT SHIMMING FOR THE KNUCKLE ARM TO SWING FREELY.
REFERENCE PICTURE IS ATTACHED[/QUOTE
Like I said before, you have to check shimming when you change diffs/parts etc to make sure your tolerances have not changed. Its good that you did when you went to the carbon cases, but did you check things out when you put the center one way in? If you shim the center one way correctly, the up and down you are seeing on the prop joint should go away.
Yes, you can do either. I just sand my hub with a fine fingernail file just enough to free things up
#1139
OK Timmie I see what you are talking about with suspension blocks. I have XD left over from the rear. I need D or C blocks to make this work?
#1140
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Timmie, the kit is box stock (with a front spool added) and assembled per instructions. Are they other suspension blocks in the kit? I will have to take a look. You are refering to the lateral blocks on the bottom that house the arm pins?
I have not tried the swing shafts in the rear. I had the front lose a dog bone the first day I drove it so I figured that would be a good place to start.
I have not tried the swing shafts in the rear. I had the front lose a dog bone the first day I drove it so I figured that would be a good place to start.