Tekin RS ESC sensored
06-30-2009, 01:02 PM
#4623
Tech Fanatic
What's the unit of measure for 'delay'? Milliseconds?
Am I right to assume that...
Motor timing is fixed, applies throughout the rev range
Boost is a set amount, and comes in as the revs rise
Turbo is a set amount, and comes in after a time delay after full throttle is hit.
Total timing is motor + boost + turbo.
Like Cap't America says, just trying to prepare for 199!
(PS - please don't give me that full and total explanation we had a few pages back! I'm a simple lad, so clear, short answers to the assumptions above will be fine!!
)
Am I right to assume that...
Motor timing is fixed, applies throughout the rev range
Boost is a set amount, and comes in as the revs rise
Turbo is a set amount, and comes in after a time delay after full throttle is hit.
Total timing is motor + boost + turbo.
Like Cap't America says, just trying to prepare for 199!
(PS - please don't give me that full and total explanation we had a few pages back! I'm a simple lad, so clear, short answers to the assumptions above will be fine!!
)
06-30-2009, 01:42 PM
#4625
What's the unit of measure for 'delay'? Milliseconds?
Am I right to assume that...
Motor timing is fixed, applies throughout the rev range
Boost is a set amount, and comes in as the revs rise
Turbo is a set amount, and comes in after a time delay after full throttle is hit.
Total timing is motor + boost + turbo.
Like Cap't America says, just trying to prepare for 199!
(PS - please don't give me that full and total explanation we had a few pages back! I'm a simple lad, so clear, short answers to the assumptions above will be fine!!)
Am I right to assume that...
Motor timing is fixed, applies throughout the rev range
Boost is a set amount, and comes in as the revs rise
Turbo is a set amount, and comes in after a time delay after full throttle is hit.
Total timing is motor + boost + turbo.
Like Cap't America says, just trying to prepare for 199!
(PS - please don't give me that full and total explanation we had a few pages back! I'm a simple lad, so clear, short answers to the assumptions above will be fine!!
)The above is correct in a simple way
motor + boost + turbo timing = anything up to 45 deg of max timing as a guideline.
On instances when i ran close on 50 degrees the car would buck/jerk a bit at full speed as it switched phases.
If used and run above 45 degrees of timing there is chance of motor damage or esc damage but will also vary from motor to motor from my understanding.
06-30-2009, 02:09 PM
#4626
Tech Master
Yes the delay is in milliseconds and adjust in .1 sec increments.
The above is correct in a simple way
motor + boost + turbo timing = anything up to 45 deg of max timing as a guideline.
On instances when i ran close on 50 degrees the car would buck/jerk a bit at full speed as it switched phases.
If used and run above 45 degrees of timing there is chance of motor damage or esc damage but will also vary from motor to motor from my understanding.
The above is correct in a simple way
motor + boost + turbo timing = anything up to 45 deg of max timing as a guideline.
On instances when i ran close on 50 degrees the car would buck/jerk a bit at full speed as it switched phases.
If used and run above 45 degrees of timing there is chance of motor damage or esc damage but will also vary from motor to motor from my understanding.
As I count motor timing plus boost plus 15 and plus turbo I will come on the 65 to 70 total timing.
And as you set the motor on 24 boost on max plus 15 you get 69 total timing and that is to much.
That's why I count the Turbo not with the Total timing.
You can ad easy 20 Turbo on the 40 or 50 total timing and the motor doesn't get to hot.
06-30-2009, 10:22 PM
#4627
What's the unit of measure for 'delay'? Milliseconds?
Am I right to assume that...
Motor timing is fixed, applies throughout the rev range
Boost is a set amount, and comes in as the revs rise
Turbo is a set amount, and comes in after a time delay after full throttle is hit.
Total timing is motor + boost + turbo.
Like Cap't America says, just trying to prepare for 199!
Am I right to assume that...
Motor timing is fixed, applies throughout the rev range
Boost is a set amount, and comes in as the revs rise
Turbo is a set amount, and comes in after a time delay after full throttle is hit.
Total timing is motor + boost + turbo.
Like Cap't America says, just trying to prepare for 199!
06-30-2009, 10:25 PM
#4628
Can the rs pro really be used with 4 cell lipo? or is that beyond its limits?
Can it handle 3 cell lipos?
Alex
Can it handle 3 cell lipos?
Alex
07-01-2009, 01:24 AM
#4629
I don't count my turbo with the total timing.
As I count motor timing plus boost plus 15 and plus turbo I will come on the 65 to 70 total timing.
And as you set the motor on 24 boost on max plus 15 you get 69 total timing and that is to much.
That's why I count the Turbo not with the Total timing.
You can ad easy 20 Turbo on the 40 or 50 total timing and the motor doesn't get to hot.
As I count motor timing plus boost plus 15 and plus turbo I will come on the 65 to 70 total timing.
And as you set the motor on 24 boost on max plus 15 you get 69 total timing and that is to much.
That's why I count the Turbo not with the Total timing.
You can ad easy 20 Turbo on the 40 or 50 total timing and the motor doesn't get to hot.
That is possible.
As soon as i felt the buck/jerking i took it for the max and possible incorrect firing of the phases, so reduced boost and it went away.
hence my conclusion and it will definately be motor dependant as we dont know the actual inherent timing from the manufacturer.
07-01-2009, 03:32 AM
#4630
Tech Master
iTrader: (21)
ON Resistance: 0.00005 Ohms brushed fwd mode, 0.00015 Ohms brushless mode, 0.00015 brushed fwd/reverse mode
Input Voltage: 4-9 Cells, 3S Lipo
BEC: 6.0V/3.0A
Motor Limit: None
Throttle Profiles: 7 choices (on board)
Brushed Modes: Fwd Only, Fwd/Rev, Rev Delay
Brushless Modes: Fwd Only, Fwd/Rev, Rev Delay
Dimensions: 1.3 x 1.00" x .60" (33 x 25.4 x 15.25mm)
Weight: 2.3oz with included 12G wiring
07-01-2009, 06:12 AM
#4631
Did some more solid testing last night found these settings to work real good on 75x45 track
motor express 17.5 duo 0 timing
pinion 48
spur 74
tire 1.65
settings on rs
drag 25
rev0
brake 60
blfw
profile 5
cutoff 0
turbo 20
boost 15
delay 0
motor express 17.5 duo 0 timing
pinion 48
spur 74
tire 1.65
settings on rs
drag 25
rev0
brake 60
blfw
profile 5
cutoff 0
turbo 20
boost 15
delay 0
Delay 0?
07-01-2009, 08:34 AM
#4633
Tech Master
So with 199, when you combine Turbo+Boost does your car say "Yes Michael, we have full power" and proceed to change into "battle mode"?
Ahhhhh, I need sleep....
Ahhhhh, I need sleep....
07-01-2009, 08:44 AM
#4634
07-01-2009, 09:00 AM
#4635