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Isaac 12-28-2009 07:55 PM

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I run bullet connectors and never had battery issues ever.
Honestly I am using them because I didn't have to worry about soldering them and they are well protected from the chassis. Easy to grab and handle. Heck they work. Plus I needed the length because some packs switch or have the positive and negative connectors opposite of what I have. So if I wanted to try a different pack I would need the length. I may use the Trinity bullet plugs I have later. I personally like it and gets the job done. Looks better in person. 24.5 mm I would say is maximum height...


Originally Posted by jscamry (Post 6775761)
Issac, what battery is that you are running on your car? Also are those pos and neg connectors connected to your battery? If so are they secured well? Also have you had any issues with the connectors for the battery?

Thanks,Jason.


RyeRey521 12-28-2009 08:23 PM

Very good points... And thanks for the detailed photos.....
I was just thinking in terms of my 1/12th.. I was thinking of switching to bullet packs for the nice clean look they give but what you said makes sense... Those things are practical... I see you needed to shave the one to fit but other then that seems nice and neat anyway... I just shoved my 5200 SMC into my new car using some shims but just bought a new battery online tonight with bullets and will save that until my new esc comes in as well.... Again thanks for the pics and my name is Ryan Reyes I will probably be posting a lot of ?'s on here now considering my new fleet lol....


Also.. Isaac... where do you race if you don't mind me asking... I am in St. Louis right now but am moving to NJ soon and will be racing at Horsham but if your just in Maryland that will be a good excuse to talk the girlfriend into a weekend vacation to do something down there one day and race with another E4 the other..

Isaac 12-28-2009 08:27 PM

No way I use these connectors on a 12th scale or a typical 2 belt car. Had to shave a little off one connector because of the chassis on the negative side. Still doesn't touch the chassis.

jscamry 12-28-2009 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by RyeRey521 (Post 6775777)
Was wondering the same thing... A PM from the seller of the cars I just picked up told me 24mm....



I believe he has told us before that he uses Pro-Match LiPo's... I would assume this one

But I am also curious about the connectors.. Seems a lot more bulky then regular plugs.. Is there a reason you are using them?

Thanks, I must has missed his post on the battery which he runs.

RyeRey521 12-28-2009 09:24 PM

NP.. wasn't trying to be mean or sarcastic in any way.. I know it can come off like that sometimes with us just typing ya know..

blis 12-28-2009 09:38 PM

E4 suspension.
 

Originally Posted by Isaac (Post 6774874)
I would assume the top plate I have is the newest "foam spec" top plate. The hole was already there but I did enlarge it. I use Pro-Match batteries which are similar to other manufacturers. The top plate was a little close on both positive and negative and I used the dremel to trim a little to make things neat. I did not hack or take away from the top plate that much at all.

Not sure it will fit the previous version of the E4 but looking at both it looks like it will.

Why did you go up in spring rate?

My theory is STIFF and LOW is fast. And where tracks are smooth and have very little bumps, I stiffen up. We run on asphalt Sorex36, so stiffer is good with that config. Might be different with softer compounds.

Been having a lot of handling issues with soft suspension so we stiffened right up to BLUE front and TURQ rear and could see that the car was noticeably unsettled on the track. We gradually reduced the spring rates until the car seemed smoother on track.

Running soft will let the car roll from side to side and tend to bite on the tyres. Whilst sway bar should remove this, I dont feel that the sway systems on the E4 are stiff enough to make a dramatic difference. We run a G4 as well and they are stiffer.

Stiffer suspension seems to give us a flatter ride and car seems a lot happier.
We arent experienced in any way, still experimenting and this is what Ive found to date.

Any suggestion would be appreciated, by no means are my findings final and we are still working our way around the chassis.

cheers.

h

blis 12-28-2009 09:50 PM

Sebo..
 
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Originally Posted by SebO (Post 6774909)
hi

can anybody tell me what I have to do to make the pictures visible?

I see only this:

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URLlink
http://www.beachmumsracing.org.au/wp..._2010_1024.jpg

IMGlink
http://www.beachmumsracing.org.au/wp..._2010_1024.jpg

Attach via URL - ERROR
http://www.beachmumsracing.org.au/wp...2010_rear.jpg:
Upload failed due to failure writing temporary file.??
(SEEMS it's adding a COLON to the end of filename)

Attach from HDD local:
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Isaac 12-29-2009 07:12 AM

What is the spring rate for the turquoise spring?

Pro10noob 12-29-2009 09:01 AM

I believe it was answered before a view pages back but here it is again:D

gn - 11.5
mg - 14.4
pk - 19.2=turquoise i believe???
pr - 23.1
lgn - 30.0
bl - 38.0
or - 46.2
gr - 58.8

cheers Roy



Originally Posted by Isaac (Post 6777608)
What is the spring rate for the turquoise spring?


Isaac 12-29-2009 09:38 AM

two different colors for the same spring rate?

Pro10noob 12-29-2009 01:43 PM

Some call it pink and others call it turquoise if we are talking about the TM springs.
Just keep the ratios in mind

cheers Roy



Originally Posted by Isaac (Post 6778204)
two different colors for the same spring rate?


Isaac 12-29-2009 03:17 PM

Well if that's the case I have the rear springs on the car and according to Blis I should try stiffer front springs.

blis 12-30-2009 05:51 PM

TM springs.
 

Originally Posted by Isaac (Post 6779475)
Well if that's the case I have the rear springs on the car and according to Blis I should try stiffer front springs.

Turquiose.. isnt PINK!!

lemme.. check my spring kit.

Light Green = 1.2mm
Maroon = 1.3mm
Pink = 1.4mm
Purple = (Rear) 1.5mm
Turquoise (Fronts) = 1.6mm
Blue = 1.7mm
Orange = 1.8mm
Grey = 1.9mm

Have no idea how to measure the actual rates though.

What I can measure is the gauge of the default springs are 1.35 like the maroons if you take into consideration the paint. The default springs have 8 coils, and the spring kits have 6.

Isaac 12-30-2009 06:38 PM

Thank you for the clarification. Are the springs below the same? Got this from RC Mushroom.

Team Magic G4 Spring Set

http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_i...ducts_id=14040

[TM-502143] $21.00USD http://www.rc-mushroom.com/images/pixel_trans.gif http://www.rc-mushroom.com/images/TM-502143.jpg
Comes with 8 pairs of springs:

1.2mm 10lb
1.3mm 13lb
1.4mm 17lb
1.5mm 20lb
1.6mm 26lb
1.7mm 31lb
1.8mm 41lb
1.9mm 51lb

http://www.rc-mushroom.com/images/pixel_trans.gif

blis 12-30-2009 06:54 PM

That's them:)
 

Originally Posted by Isaac (Post 6784993)
Thank you for the clarification. Are the springs below the same? Got this from RC Mushroom.

Team Magic G4 Spring Set

[TM-502143] $21.00USD http://www.rc-mushroom.com/images/pixel_trans.gif http://www.rc-mushroom.com/images/TM-502143.jpg
Comes with 8 pairs of springs:

1.2mm 10lb
1.3mm 13lb
1.4mm 17lb
1.5mm 20lb
1.6mm 26lb
1.7mm 31lb
1.8mm 41lb
1.9mm 51lb

http://www.rc-mushroom.com/images/pixel_trans.gif

Interesting specs.. where'd they come from?


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