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Old 03-24-2008, 12:12 PM   #856
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A shameless little plug: #110 is my 10th scale pan thrust kit.

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Old 03-24-2008, 02:02 PM   #857
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I am tired of TCs. Complicated cars, not energy efficient, lots of mantainance. Not for me anymore, I raced them for 6 years and had enaugh.

Pro 10 are about the same sice, only the rear looks sexier because of the huge wheels. Batteries last longer, mantainance is easier, dont cost a fortune and are great for big outdoor tracks.

1/12 is a great class too but there is no scale realism, and as fast as it can be, it is not the best deal for big outdoor tracks.

Anyway, lets hear about some testing first.
A few people have been very busily testing these cars already bro. What I think you mean is let's see some racing first.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:48 PM   #858
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For me, 1/12 is great indoors. But the GT10/Pro10 class should be better for the HUGE outdoor facilities that I race at in the warmer months. Places like Blue Diamond, DE are so big that 1/12 disappear on the back stretch. poof vanished
That's the beauty of these cars, one car for all seasons . One lipo, one car 2 motors.

17.5/21.5 for winter indoors, 3.5 for summer outdoors
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:47 PM   #859
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A few people have been very busily testing these cars already bro. What I think you mean is let's see some racing first.
Few words about testing from BMI and I read something from Mr. Stormer. I cant recall anything else. Some data would be useful like handling in asphalt, aproximate speed with 10.5, 17,5, etc. tire wear, gear ratios,etc.

(speed compared to a nitro.........also very important)

Maybe the info is here, but I have not seen it......please poit me in the right direction.

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We have been testing on asphalt. We have tested on low all the way to high bite asphalt. The 10.5 w/ 4 cell is comparable in top speed to a 10.5 TC in 6 cell. The 4 cell pan cars on lower bite dirty tracks turn about the same times as TC because the foam tires do not like dirt. They still handle great but do not show a big advantage. When the tracks are clean,the pan cars turn faster lap times using the same motors. They just handle better and carry more corner speed.

Mod 4.5 and 4 cell is a about the same or a little faster than mod TC. Mod TC does not put the power to the ground on asphalt like the pan cars do. Again, this is on a fairly clean track. On a real clean track the mod pan cars are faster than TC mod cars.

On a large high bite track that was suited for 1/8th scale nitro, Mod 4 cell pan cars were right on pace with the fastest 1/10th nitro cars. 1/8th scale was quicker than the pans per lap but not much. We will be motoring up for this weekend to give the 1/8th cars a run for there money. I will try to get some video. With the right setup changes, i really feel i can get those extra tenths.

I will be running Lipo in about 2 weeks with a 10.5 and see how it compares to the 4 cell mod. Fast in a straight line doesnt mean fast around the track. I know alot of guys who run mod TC with a 3.5 brushless and they feel real proud. Then they go look at the lap times and see that they would have qualified 5th in stock with those lap times. Lets see what the usable motor limit will be for 7.4 volt lipo. I will share my findings.
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I will be running Lipo in about 2 weeks with a 10.5 and see how it compares to the 4 cell mod. Fast in a straight line doesnt mean fast around the track. I know alot of guys who run mod TC with a 3.5 brushless and they feel real proud. Then they go look at the lap times and see that they would have qualified 5th in stock with those lap times. Lets see what the usable motor limit will be for 7.4 volt lipo. I will share my findings.
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Where are the Pro24 cars, that's what I want to know?! Serpent's on it, what about the rest of you?
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:12 PM   #863
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Where are the Pro24 cars, that's what I want to know?! Serpent's on it, what about the rest of you?
What? you don't like 12th scale? lol
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Power is nothing without control...
Exactly my point. I want to see at what point can you not use the power anymore. After running a 3.5 and 4 cells, I just cant see how a car can take 7.4 volts with the same motor unless you are just always out of the throttle. This is what i would like to see and i will never know for certain until i try it for myself.
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after this 8th scale track adventure the wager is.. will jason be eating his words?
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I hope so. If the car handles it and the power is usable, i am all for it. I just cant see it happening at this point.
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Exactly my point. I want to see at what point can you not use the power anymore. After running a 3.5 and 4 cells, I just cant see how a car can take 7.4 volts with the same motor unless you are just always out of the throttle. This is what i would like to see and i will never know for certain until i try it for myself.
I just remember running pro 10 at nats with stock motors passing people in mod down the straight away.. it was SICK lol.. I think for the experienced guys 2 cell lipo and a 10.5 will be a blast and most medium sized tracks.. like the new mod tc.. and for the psychos try a 5.5 and see if you can hold on.. I think the best lap times will be with like a 13.5 or a 10.5.. the power delivery if the 13.5 will be nice..
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Those stock 6 cell cars were sick huh. I agree with you. Can you imagine the guys who are running 3.5 they must be running on full size race tracks. I just cant see being able to harness that kind of power on a track. It just seems you couldnt use it anywhere.
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Any chance your company might have a crack at making a 10th scale pan chassis my friend?
Wouldn't that be cool..... nope...no plans. I am thrashing to just get the MS3 ready for release. I am going to let the guys with all the cool tools dip their big toe in first. But if I were a bettin' man, this Pro 10 class is going to overtake touring in a few years.
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Those stock 6 cell cars were sick huh. I agree with you. Can you imagine the guys who are running 3.5 they must be running on full size race tracks. I just cant see being able to harness that kind of power on a track. It just seems you couldnt use it anywhere.
Granted in 04 they had the 10 turn limit for sedans.. but thats still sick to pass a mod sedan with a car running a stock motor. It would be silly fun for like a test day to run a 4.5 or something just screwing around if there is a day when your mod sedan feels slow lol.. if you were running your electric at a place like crystal park yeah ya could probably use it.. hell we should run a open mod class there.. see if we can outrun the 1/8th scales lol..
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