Tamiya Ta06
#976
Tech Master
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plus get topup donations from generous friends who don't use them either
which then either get used for our odd experimental research projects
or fixing up kiddies with broken Tamiyas who just need 1 arm etc
both types come from the same mold & is identical in dimensions
(but being anal... imho the GF shrinks more than CF during cooling
so the CF part's holes end up tighter than the GF part when new.)
Short Reversible arms have the "X" bracing.
Reversible arms look more like "Y" shape in their bracing,
they're only a mil or 2 longer.
parts list for stiff job:-
53928 hard Short Reversible suspension arm
51332 TRF416 hard Front Upright
51333 hard Rear Upright
54031 hard Hub Carrier 4Deg
+
53709 fluorine coated suspension ball
53539 Aluminum Spacer Set 5.5mm
with
54069 tb03 suspension mount 1A
54172 ta05 ver 2 separate sus. Mounts 1a/1xa (base setup)
54072 tb03 suspension mount 1d (base setup)
and maybe
53851 3x46mm Ti. coated suspension shafts
53917 2.6mm Ti. Coated shaft set for reversible suspension
^^ cribbed off my last VDF build blog
http://melbrc.org/vB/showthread.php?t=5021
should all be the same for TA06 suspension
interestingly the TA06 does not have a little collar between the 2 1050s in knuckles
anybody know why? Thought this was to help the BBs' longetivity after 950 debacle,
but they've disappeared from TA06 whilst the VDF got them.
#977
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since time inmemorial, T's idea of "PRO" is what layman would call "CON"
It is usually used on a kitbox that's first of its new-model out the gates
with a mission of soaking up all the freecashflow from early adopters.
evidence:-
TA03F PRO... added only balldiffs and plate chassis vs std kit tub.
And the plates were only FRP, not CF (sold separately)!
Later reborn as the TA03F PRO Jun and TA03F DriftSpec
neither of which had as many alloy bits like TA03R TRF.
TA04 PRO... again this only added balldiffs and FRP plates.
Everything else including CVDs, lightweight diff parts, proper TRF shocks,
low-drag belts, reinforced gearcases, reinforced knuckles, reinforced arms,
CF plates in either black or SSG, alloy hingepin blocks, race front suspension,
CF shock towers, finned motor mount, CF spur mount, hardened layshaft,
centre & front oneway diffs.... $350 base kit, $900 in options...
Which brought it up to level of $400 TA04R or $500 TA04TRF.
TA05... ahh T got smarter, they knew fans were onto their PRO scheme.
So the 1st TA05 was called the "Porsche 934RSR Anniversary".
And for a 2nd bite at the cherry, that begat the TA05MS.
scam then moved onto smaller cars...
M05 PRO still no TRFs, no CVDs, no balldiff.
in hindsight... TA06 PRO isn't that bad a deal.
Its decently priced and you now get TRFs ($50) and 417-spec CVDs ($60).
The low-fric grey ballcups aren't widely supplied in non-TRF kits either
so that's another $10 value; could've added the grey bits for the TRFs too.
There's a few whingers about posidrive vs hex head screws
but after those nice shiny bronze hexes they supplied in TA05VDF kit,
they're buttersoft and you'll easily strip their heads unless you had good tools.
They ain't much hardier than their blue aluminium or bright Ti screws.
#978
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parts list for stiff job:-
53928 hard Short Reversible suspension arm
51332 TRF416 hard Front Upright
51333 hard Rear Upright
54031 hard Hub Carrier 4Deg
+
53709 fluorine coated suspension ball
53539 Aluminum Spacer Set 5.5mm
with
54069 tb03 suspension mount 1A
54172 ta05 ver 2 separate sus. Mounts 1a/1xa (base setup)
54072 tb03 suspension mount 1d (base setup)
and maybe
53851 3x46mm Ti. coated suspension shafts
53917 2.6mm Ti. Coated shaft set for reversible suspension
tamiya ta06 carbon chassis, a parts and t parts, titanium screw kit, TRF tbo3d rear alum hubs, carbon rear tower, all sus mounts
yeah racing tb03d c hub and front knuckles
square rc titanium shafts and all ball studs
im interested to fund my weight RTR.
I come from a yokomo SD, and BD and I am used to racing a chassis that favors one side, its just this is the opposite side.
ironically if somone comes out with a carbon chassis, i will prob stick with the tub.
#979
#982
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I've read the last couple pages, I'm trying to decided if this is a good chassis for me.
I club race, I'm not an expert driver I fall in the middle somewhere. I was thinking about trying this chassis out. My last car was a TC6 before that I was racing an xray t3.
any thoughts??
I club race, I'm not an expert driver I fall in the middle somewhere. I was thinking about trying this chassis out. My last car was a TC6 before that I was racing an xray t3.
any thoughts??
#983
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I've read the last couple pages, I'm trying to decided if this is a good chassis for me.
I club race, I'm not an expert driver I fall in the middle somewhere. I was thinking about trying this chassis out. My last car was a TC6 before that I was racing an xray t3.
any thoughts??
I club race, I'm not an expert driver I fall in the middle somewhere. I was thinking about trying this chassis out. My last car was a TC6 before that I was racing an xray t3.
any thoughts??
#984
I've read the last couple pages, I'm trying to decided if this is a good chassis for me.
I club race, I'm not an expert driver I fall in the middle somewhere. I was thinking about trying this chassis out. My last car was a TC6 before that I was racing an xray t3.
any thoughts??
I club race, I'm not an expert driver I fall in the middle somewhere. I was thinking about trying this chassis out. My last car was a TC6 before that I was racing an xray t3.
any thoughts??
#985
Tech Regular
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Just thought I would post up some of my latest TA06 experiments.
In the pics is a layout for a shorty pack. It is really not as cool as you would think since the chassis still needs to be balanced out for the servo which puts about 45 grams back on the outside of the chassis. I went back to a standard set-up to test batteries back to back.
I also removed a whopping 27ish grams from the drive-line with the following parts.
R1101: R1 Wurks 7075-T6 Drive Axles (Tamiya, pair)
TAM54304: TA06 Front Direct Coupling - 39T
TAM53724: Tamiya 46mm Swing Shaft Lw
TAM51469: TRF417 Gear Diff Unit Cup Joint
Hotbodies DCJs are going in tonight before carpet club racing tomorrow. I should have a very good spec rubber tire carpet set-up after tomorrow. I was getting within a tenth of my TCX consistently before the newest diet listed above.
If you run open rubber tires, not only are Sorex better tires, but they will also drop another 20 grams of static weight off of the drive-line.
Running weight with regular battery, 1389 grams.
Running weight pre-ballast with shorty, 1291 grams.
Mike Slaughter
In the pics is a layout for a shorty pack. It is really not as cool as you would think since the chassis still needs to be balanced out for the servo which puts about 45 grams back on the outside of the chassis. I went back to a standard set-up to test batteries back to back.
I also removed a whopping 27ish grams from the drive-line with the following parts.
R1101: R1 Wurks 7075-T6 Drive Axles (Tamiya, pair)
TAM54304: TA06 Front Direct Coupling - 39T
TAM53724: Tamiya 46mm Swing Shaft Lw
TAM51469: TRF417 Gear Diff Unit Cup Joint
Hotbodies DCJs are going in tonight before carpet club racing tomorrow. I should have a very good spec rubber tire carpet set-up after tomorrow. I was getting within a tenth of my TCX consistently before the newest diet listed above.
If you run open rubber tires, not only are Sorex better tires, but they will also drop another 20 grams of static weight off of the drive-line.
Running weight with regular battery, 1389 grams.
Running weight pre-ballast with shorty, 1291 grams.
Mike Slaughter
#987
Tech Master
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hmmm... neat install!
gotta get me some shorty packs to hide the ESC inside
even with std chassis after adding the rear alloy turrets over motor
i find it plenty stiff laterally, feels like any other chassis
tortional flex is good afaik
TA06 manages to generate a lot of mechanical grip...
same BITD used to race a chassis with NiMH on LHS counterclockwise
around the track... a std TA05 with battery on the other side
was never quite the same holding the highspeed sweepers
(comparative speed ok but much more uneven tyre wear)
gotta get me some shorty packs to hide the ESC inside
My "stiffness and lightness" adventure has led me to the following:
tamiya ta06 carbon chassis, a parts and t parts, titanium screw kit, TRF tbo3d rear alum hubs, carbon rear tower, all sus mounts
yeah racing tb03d c hub and front knuckles
square rc titanium shafts and all ball studs
tamiya ta06 carbon chassis, a parts and t parts, titanium screw kit, TRF tbo3d rear alum hubs, carbon rear tower, all sus mounts
yeah racing tb03d c hub and front knuckles
square rc titanium shafts and all ball studs
i find it plenty stiff laterally, feels like any other chassis
tortional flex is good afaik
TA06 manages to generate a lot of mechanical grip...
I come from a yokomo SD, and BD and I am used to racing a chassis that favors one side, its just this is the opposite side.
ironically if somone comes out with a carbon chassis, i will prob stick with the tub.
ironically if somone comes out with a carbon chassis, i will prob stick with the tub.
around the track... a std TA05 with battery on the other side
was never quite the same holding the highspeed sweepers
(comparative speed ok but much more uneven tyre wear)
#988
Tech Master
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feels good to me, even in box stock spec - i assume you're racing
PRO gets TRF shocks, best in the biz. Stock CVDs also can't be beat.
Non-PRO kits will need CVDs; TRFs highly recommended.
Depending how often you whack the boards, aluminium turnbuckles
might bend often so some replace with stiffer equivalents.
As said above i like stiff plastics & alloy mounts for my serious builds
as it noticeably sharpens its response; ergo when i do tuning i usually like
to have 2 identical cars driven back-2-back to confirm every change.
#990
Suspended
Stand up ofcourse....
Can somebody link the carbon chassis that are out there for sell at this moment.
The car has been out for sometime now but in ebay there is none chassis set for sell yet.
Jerzi
Can somebody link the carbon chassis that are out there for sell at this moment.
The car has been out for sometime now but in ebay there is none chassis set for sell yet.
Jerzi