1LikesU.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing
11-10-2008, 08:39 AM
#3080
Put together a USVTA over the last couple of weeks and showed up at Fastcats yesterday to try it.
What a cool class
Not a class here yet but a lot of interest.
Built up a HPI Camaro with a 21.5 Lipo on a Tamiya 415 MSXX.
The car handles very well on carpet. Looking forward to the Novak Race
What a cool class
Not a class here yet but a lot of interest.
Built up a HPI Camaro with a 21.5 Lipo on a Tamiya 415 MSXX.
The car handles very well on carpet. Looking forward to the Novak Race
11-10-2008, 08:46 AM
#3082
This sparked a thought... What if ROAR tried to add VTA as a national class? Good? Bad? I am 99.999999% sure it would never happen, but it does pose an interesting question. I think that one of the reasons it is such a popular class is because it is a class for racers, by racers.
If ROAR was to take it over, I think it would loose that feel and eventually fade out. Thoughts?
11-10-2008, 10:20 AM
#3085
Roar always has the option of adding 1 class to any nationals if there's a "Local Class". I remember at Trackside when they hosted the carpet oval nats they had the "Trackside Cup" class. At the recent Nats at the Plex they had 13.5 Rubber. A host track can add 1 class at their digression if agreed upon with ROAR, correct Dawn?
11-10-2008, 10:33 AM
#3086
Actually, the next rule change that effects brushed 27t motors will be to eliminate them from the USVTA options completely. This won't happen for a little while yet, but there are no plans to offer any more changes to the brushed motor option. The reality is, the 27t doesn't need the help—it's already the fastest motor of the 3 choices with regular maintenance and rebuilding.
The future of this class is 21.5/LiPo, and we are rapidly getting to the point where if you are running anything else, you're not going to be up front at the end. Not to say that it can't be done with something else, but your odds are decreasing rapidly as this class progresses and the majority moves to the most consistent, easy to maintain and cost-effective powerplant option.
Be prepared—21.5/LiPo is where this class is headed.
The future of this class is 21.5/LiPo, and we are rapidly getting to the point where if you are running anything else, you're not going to be up front at the end. Not to say that it can't be done with something else, but your odds are decreasing rapidly as this class progresses and the majority moves to the most consistent, easy to maintain and cost-effective powerplant option.
Be prepared—21.5/LiPo is where this class is headed.
The statement saying you need power option c is a problem in itself.
VTA has to make sure that all power options are equal and speeds are kept in check or it will just evolve into another rubber tire sedan class.....
11-10-2008, 10:42 AM
#3087
Hi DAWN....
Did you WIN re-election yet? ( I followed enough POLITICS this year and haven't been watching the ROAR election info.)
ammdrew
where are you running VTA? (You are in CA aren't you?)
I'm looking for places that are running it out here....(ideas for the future)
I know we're doing it up the Coast in NIPOMO and the VENTURA Road Runners is running kind of an outlaw version with the Mabuchi type motors...
I sent the idea to Doug about increasing the 17.5 B/L motors to 5 cell, since that would make that package much close to the 21.5 (Power and RPM) I haven't run a BRUSHED STOCK motor for a while so I don't know if that would work for that combo too or not.
The (5) cell 17.5 might NOT work for official U.S.V.T.A. guidelines, but it might be something that works at YOUR tracks.
Our LOCAL Club Track is pretty big (inside of a 110 x 80 ft. box) and the 21.5/LIPO speeds are fun....but with 4 cell to keep up we allowed 19t motors instead of stock. (the 21.5 walked the STOCK motors)
Did you WIN re-election yet? ( I followed enough POLITICS this year and haven't been watching the ROAR election info.)
ammdrew
where are you running VTA? (You are in CA aren't you?)
I'm looking for places that are running it out here....(ideas for the future)
I know we're doing it up the Coast in NIPOMO and the VENTURA Road Runners is running kind of an outlaw version with the Mabuchi type motors...
I sent the idea to Doug about increasing the 17.5 B/L motors to 5 cell, since that would make that package much close to the 21.5 (Power and RPM) I haven't run a BRUSHED STOCK motor for a while so I don't know if that would work for that combo too or not.
The (5) cell 17.5 might NOT work for official U.S.V.T.A. guidelines, but it might be something that works at YOUR tracks.
Our LOCAL Club Track is pretty big (inside of a 110 x 80 ft. box) and the 21.5/LIPO speeds are fun....but with 4 cell to keep up we allowed 19t motors instead of stock. (the 21.5 walked the STOCK motors)
11-10-2008, 10:44 AM
#3088
Once ROAR has their spec ironed out for the 21.5 and then they start to list legal motors, they will be allowed in the USVTA. Hopefully, ROAR will be proactive with the future of these motors and mandate some sort of ID markings to distinguish "pre-approval" motors from the future-legal 21.5s.
I'm crossing my fingers with that one. Tech might be miserable if that doesn't happen, as you'll have legal motors and potentially illegal motors in the same motor pool. Ugh. The thought of that alone makes me want a single motor solution, even though I realize that it's not a practical solution.
I'm crossing my fingers with that one. Tech might be miserable if that doesn't happen, as you'll have legal motors and potentially illegal motors in the same motor pool. Ugh. The thought of that alone makes me want a single motor solution, even though I realize that it's not a practical solution.
A single manufacturer rule is quite practical, as long as you are clear about it now. BRL rules seem to be working fine. There are few 21.5 motors being raced today that aren't Novak.
11-10-2008, 11:06 AM
#3089
As long as you have a gearing limit on the 21.5 motor, you should stick with a single manufacturer. Otherwise, every time a new 21.5 comes out that has a higher RPM power band, everybody will need to buy one to stay on the pace. ROAR rules won't prevent this.
A single manufacturer rule is quite practical, as long as you are clear about it now. BRL rules seem to be working fine. There are few 21.5 motors being raced today that aren't Novak.
A single manufacturer rule is quite practical, as long as you are clear about it now. BRL rules seem to be working fine. There are few 21.5 motors being raced today that aren't Novak.
11-10-2008, 11:19 AM
#3090
Minnesota.
Curently we do not allow the 21.5/lipo combo until we can find a spec that will not require all current rracers to buy new equipment to compete.
5 celll 17.5 is the wrong direction on speed.
Curently we do not allow the 21.5/lipo combo until we can find a spec that will not require all current rracers to buy new equipment to compete.
5 celll 17.5 is the wrong direction on speed.