BMI's DB12R
03-10-2010, 10:50 AM
#8566
Dayum that looks sweet 
Can't wait to see the new front end
Can't wait to see the new front end
03-10-2010, 01:31 PM
#8568
Are you still recommending the newest version of the Associated front ends? I personally don't like the front end that you sell with the car and saw several pages back where you said to use the new Associated front end. I tried to install it but, the front body mounts are right on top of the front end and you can't really get a body to fit perfect. Any way to move the front body mounts a tad bid forward?
Also, would it be possible to purchase the kit without the front end?
Thanks
Tim
Also, would it be possible to purchase the kit without the front end?
Thanks
Tim
03-10-2010, 01:46 PM
#8569
The front end that comes with the car works very well. Some opt to use the updated AE front end and that will work with the hyperdrive mounting blocks. I have a few guys that are running the new AE front end on the Db12RR and it seems to fit fine. I will see how it fits with the new car as soon as i can. Moving the arm location on the car will effect the handling of the car and i dont want to mess with that. It worked extremely well at its current wheelbase so i want to keep it there. I will be releasing an optional front end soon. I could not include it in the kit as i have no room for it if i want to keep the price the same. We are really working at margin with the cars as it is the only car out that comes with all the bells and whistles. I dont cut corners with quality. I refuse to follow the rest with going cheap and flimsy.
03-10-2010, 02:32 PM
#8572
From what I've seen it's really going to be a much simplier assembly than the previous version (which was allready quite easy). The new flex links are really easy to access and you don't even need to fiddle with the grub screw on top of flex plate housings. I've allready replaced the housings on my old DB12RR with the ones from Copperhead and they work a treat 
Must say that in the latest pictures it really looks much better than I expected. Great job!
Must say that in the latest pictures it really looks much better than I expected. Great job!
03-10-2010, 02:34 PM
#8573
The weakness of the stock front suspension is the IRS lower arms. Probably the least expensive and good option is to get the older lower AE arms that have been machined lower for more ride height adjustment. Looks like that's what Jason has on the Copperhead 12 pics.
The new AE front end with the 8/32nd adapters is a good alternative as well. I haven't tried it so I can't speak for the performance. I have tried the CRC and Serpent front ends on the car and both have their good points and bad. Initially I had problems with the CRC running the long upper arm option with the left and right being different. But now that they have gone to the long arm instead of the long ball everything is aligned very nicely and the front end works very nice. The Serpent is really nice too but it is very sloppy and needs extra shims on the top and it interferes with the bumper. In the end I found I like the CRC with the long arm option the best...at least until Jason's new front end comes out
The new AE front end with the 8/32nd adapters is a good alternative as well. I haven't tried it so I can't speak for the performance. I have tried the CRC and Serpent front ends on the car and both have their good points and bad. Initially I had problems with the CRC running the long upper arm option with the left and right being different. But now that they have gone to the long arm instead of the long ball everything is aligned very nicely and the front end works very nice. The Serpent is really nice too but it is very sloppy and needs extra shims on the top and it interferes with the bumper. In the end I found I like the CRC with the long arm option the best...at least until Jason's new front end comes out
03-10-2010, 02:35 PM
#8574
Oh I forgot to ask...can you get the LiPo in and out of the car without popping off the shock? It looks like you might be able to with the new layout.
03-10-2010, 02:54 PM
#8575
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03-10-2010, 03:17 PM
#8576
I tried mounting the new Associated front end with the Hyperdrive mounts on my DB12RR and the body mounts nearly touch the Hyperdrive mounts, leaving little room for suspension when the body is mounted.
Not in any way saying that the car isn't a great car, it is. Only trying to point out that if the body mounts were moved a little forward, it would make the car more adjustable for those of us that would like to use other types of front suspension. Also, I'm more than sure that there are plenty of people out there who like the last version of the Associated frond end, it's sufficient. I personally find the front end to be less than desirable. This will be my second BMI Kit purchase and will be the second front end that I throw in the trash. I was just trying to save a little to put toward the new front end you're designing.
03-11-2010, 06:58 AM
#8579
Jason,
The new car looks great, I can hardly wait to get one.
Do you sell the lowered assoc. arms?
Thanks,
E
The new car looks great, I can hardly wait to get one.
Do you sell the lowered assoc. arms?
Thanks,
E
03-11-2010, 07:04 AM
#8580
Yes i do I will be starting new threads for the Copperhead 10 and 12 shortly so there can be discussion and support for the new cars seperate from the DB line of cars. The copperhead 10 went together last night and man, these cars are really awesome. I am very pleased.
I will be starting new threads for the Copperhead 10 and 12 shortly so there can be discussion and support for the new cars seperate from the DB line of cars. The copperhead 10 went together last night and man, these cars are really awesome. I am very pleased.