High Speed Wind Tunnel Testing pics
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High Speed Wind Tunnel Testing pics
This is a project I did for college about 4 years ago. I tested different wings with actual airfoil shapes. I used a RC10L3 with a Monte Carlo body. I wanted to compare an airfoil shaped wing with the standard wing used in oval racing. I wanted to see if I could get a much more efficient wing (lower drag with the same downforce). I have posted some of my pics and data here. I have a full written report in PDF format that I can post a link to if anyone is interested.
Last edited by b4maz; 02-08-2007 at 12:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by b4maz
This is a project I did for college about 4 years ago. I tested different wings with actual airfoil shapes. I used a RC10L3 with a Monte Carlo body. I wanted to compare an airfoil shaped wing with the standard wing used in oval racing. I wanted to see if I could get a much more efficient wing (lower drag with the same downforce). I have posted some of my pics and data here. I have a full written report in PDF format that I can post a link to if anyone is interested.
I saw this tested once before several years ago and in that test a vacuum formed Associated wide off road buggy wing had less drag, more downforce and less deformation as high speed than the fancy dual element folded wings.
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It was somewhat difficult to accurately compensate for the very large bolts I used to attach the wing. They were neccesary in order to give me the level of adjustement I needed. I did calculations to remove alot of drag from those large bolts.
I also wish I could have gone to higher speeds. The wind-tunnel I was using is rated to 180 mph. But since it was a tunnel that had just been moved into a new building, it wasnt tested up to 180mph safely. I stayed under 90 mph so the thing wouldnt shake apart.
I also wish I could have gone to higher speeds. The wind-tunnel I was using is rated to 180 mph. But since it was a tunnel that had just been moved into a new building, it wasnt tested up to 180mph safely. I stayed under 90 mph so the thing wouldnt shake apart.
Last edited by b4maz; 02-07-2007 at 01:25 PM.
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Is wing deformation really a bad thing though? Do you really want all that downforce and drag of a stable wing at high speeds?
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Originally Posted by BlueBird-sr
Is wing deformation really a bad thing though? Do you really want all that downforce and drag of a stable wing at high speeds?
I can see at a very high speed/high bank oval like the Major Taylor in Indiana that you wouldnt need so much downforce. The banking helps keep your car stick. But, I was able to show that you at least need a spoiler because just the body itself will create lift.
Its not the fact that you would be creating so much downforce, its the fact that you would be making the downforce much more efficiently (create the same downforce with less drag). The most efficient way to create downforce is with ground effect, but I wasnt able to test that
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b4maz
Take a look at these pictures
http://jbphotography.smugmug.com/gal...021/1#83299330
They were taken at the Encino Velodrome last July during the SouthWest Tour series race. There are some good high speed shots of the cars.
SKJ
Take a look at these pictures
http://jbphotography.smugmug.com/gal...021/1#83299330
They were taken at the Encino Velodrome last July during the SouthWest Tour series race. There are some good high speed shots of the cars.
SKJ
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Originally Posted by SKJ
b4maz
Take a look at these pictures
http://jbphotography.smugmug.com/gal...021/1#83299330
They were taken at the Encino Velodrome last July during the SouthWest Tour series race. There are some good high speed shots of the cars.
SKJ
Take a look at these pictures
http://jbphotography.smugmug.com/gal...021/1#83299330
They were taken at the Encino Velodrome last July during the SouthWest Tour series race. There are some good high speed shots of the cars.
SKJ
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Originally Posted by SKJ
b4maz
The picture were taken by Jason Boulanger. The red and blue car on page 6 is my car at speed, probably at 60mph. Can you please send me or post a link to your report.
SKJ
The picture were taken by Jason Boulanger. The red and blue car on page 6 is my car at speed, probably at 60mph. Can you please send me or post a link to your report.
SKJ
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Originally Posted by SKJ
b4maz
The picture were taken by Jason Boulanger. The red and blue car on page 6 is my car at speed, probably at 60mph. Can you please send me or post a link to your report.
SKJ
The picture were taken by Jason Boulanger. The red and blue car on page 6 is my car at speed, probably at 60mph. Can you please send me or post a link to your report.
SKJ
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Originally Posted by SKJ
b4maz
Some of the mod cars were clocked in the 60-62 mph range. The stock(motor) cars were in 45-48 mph range. Nic Case was there and ran his speed run car. I don't know how fast he was clocked. I think he was running his Custom Works car.
SKJ
Some of the mod cars were clocked in the 60-62 mph range. The stock(motor) cars were in 45-48 mph range. Nic Case was there and ran his speed run car. I don't know how fast he was clocked. I think he was running his Custom Works car.
SKJ
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Originally Posted by b4maz
One of the things I did notice was the amount of suspension these guys are running. They have more travel than touring cars. Geez. I guess the surface of that track isnt very smooth. It even looks like some of the cars are catching air. Are the suspension setups all custom for this track?
Most velodromes are not all that smooth they might have had to make changes for the surface.
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Most of the cars that run on the Encino Velodrome are not "normal oval cars." While there are a few 10L4s and 10L3s running standard front ends, most cars are running custom frontends with a lot of suspension travel. The special frontends started right before the 97 NORRCA nats held at Encino when Custom Works released a modified version of their Intimidator frontend - it was expensive (around $250 just for the front end). Donn Natale then put together a frontend based on the Associated Dual Sport suspension for around $70. Since then Randy at Big Boys Toys has a frontend that uses Associated Dual Sport front arms but with a aluminum base and different graphite bulkhead than Donn's. They have a lot more suspension travel than touring - the track is pretty bumpy when going at 60MPH. Almost everyone is running some sort of ground effects also. The entire bottom of my chassis is sealed up to the end of the chassis were the rear pod meets, and even that is extended more than a normal oval car.
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Originally Posted by jblackburn
Most of the cars that run on the Encino Velodrome are not "normal oval cars." While there are a few 10L4s and 10L3s running standard front ends, most cars are running custom frontends with a lot of suspension travel. The special frontends started right before the 97 NORRCA nats held at Encino when Custom Works released a modified version of their Intimidator frontend - it was expensive (around $250 just for the front end). Donn Natale then put together a frontend based on the Associated Dual Sport suspension for around $70. Since then Randy at Big Boys Toys has a frontend that uses Associated Dual Sport front arms but with a aluminum base and different graphite bulkhead than Donn's. They have a lot more suspension travel than touring - the track is pretty bumpy when going at 60MPH. Almost everyone is running some sort of ground effects also. The entire bottom of my chassis is sealed up to the end of the chassis were the rear pod meets, and even that is extended more than a normal oval car.