Trinity DPD VS. Teamwave Lightning discharge Equalizing System
#16
Tech Initiate
Thanks Pat. Do you guess or know that it reverts to linear mode? Does it hold the 5 Amps? From the fact that the other 5 cells take fairly long to reach their cut off and the fan being switched of I would conclude a reduction in discharge current.
Quantum: Can't make sense out this either.
Quantum: Can't make sense out this either.
#18
Originally Posted by mha
Thanks Pat. Do you guess or know that it reverts to linear mode? Does it hold the 5 Amps? From the fact that the other 5 cells take fairly long to reach their cut off and the fan being switched of I would conclude a reduction in discharge current.
Quantum: Can't make sense out this either.
Quantum: Can't make sense out this either.
I know that it reverts back to liner mode... As far as a reduction in discharge current its a yes and no answer... After the first cell is done with the pulse mode it reverst to liner 5 amp mode.. So after the pulse 30 amps mode there is a reduction to 5 amp, but no further.. The reason it takes so long for the rest of the cells to reach there cut off is because, when you are in pulse mode you pulse the pack as a whole.. The unit just reads the voltage of each cell as it comes down.. Once the liner mode kicks in you may still some charge left in the other cells, but that means you no longer have a "matched" pack as far as runtime.. If the unit were to keep discharging in pulse it would bring the first cell well below the cut off to allow the others to catch up.. hope this makes sense..
#19
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Originally Posted by Pat Clark
I know that it reverts back to liner mode... As far as a reduction in discharge current its a yes and no answer... After the first cell is done with the pulse mode it reverst to liner 5 amp mode.. So after the pulse 30 amps mode there is a reduction to 5 amp, but no further.. The reason it takes so long for the rest of the cells to reach there cut off is because, when you are in pulse mode you pulse the pack as a whole.. The unit just reads the voltage of each cell as it comes down.. Once the liner mode kicks in you may still some charge left in the other cells, but that means you no longer have a "matched" pack as far as runtime.. If the unit were to keep discharging in pulse it would bring the first cell well below the cut off to allow the others to catch up.. hope this makes sense..
#20
Originally Posted by dodgeguy
OK so the pulse is not a per cell discharge. The unit only measures the rest of the cells to figure avg. volts and run time? So this unit is very different than the MM at a pulse discharge stand point.
Im not sure if i understand your post... It pulse discharges all the cells...
#21
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Originally Posted by Pat Clark
Im not sure if i understand your post... It pulse discharges all the cells...
#22
Originally Posted by dodgeguy
What I am saying is that the DPD does not pulse discharge each cell on its own like the MM unit does. Yes the DPD pulse discharges, but as a pack only as you have stated.
Are you sure about that this is from the Much More site:
The CTX-D is linear or pulse type discharger and can discharge 1, 3, 4, 6cells or 3, 4, 6cell packs.
Notice how you cant do 2 or 5 cells
#23
Originally Posted by Pat Clark
Are you sure about that this is from the Much More site:
The CTX-D is linear or pulse type discharger and can discharge 1, 3, 4, 6cells or 3, 4, 6cell packs.
Notice how you cant do 2 or 5 cells
The CTX-D is linear or pulse type discharger and can discharge 1, 3, 4, 6cells or 3, 4, 6cell packs.
Notice how you cant do 2 or 5 cells
cells 1-6, posts A-H
A1B
*2*
C3D
E4F
*5*
G6H
Post A and B discharges cell 1
Post A and D discharges cell 2
Post C and D discharges cell 3
and so on.....
A1B
*2*
C3D
E4F
*5*
G6H
Post A and B discharges cell 1
Post A and D discharges cell 2
Post C and D discharges cell 3
and so on.....
The CTX-D's have 0.5sec pulses with 2.5sec delays in between...so every 6 seconds of discharge time represents 1 second of actual run time.
#25
Originally Posted by Pat Clark
I know that it reverts back to liner mode... As far as a reduction in discharge current its a yes and no answer... After the first cell is done with the pulse mode it reverst to liner 5 amp mode.. So after the pulse 30 amps mode there is a reduction to 5 amp, but no further.. The reason it takes so long for the rest of the cells to reach there cut off is because, when you are in pulse mode you pulse the pack as a whole.. .
what people are asking here is if each cell is individually discharged. if not, then it cannot be compared to the muchmore ctx-d/2. i gots to think that there might be a understanding here about how this device works, what would be the point of having individual cell contacts in a tray format? only to read voltage/IR of each cell but not discharge individually?
then again, i guess you get what you pay for and maybe this is a glorified dynapulse. i tend not to think so.... can someone confirm either way? a purchase decision is on the line here!
#26
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Originally Posted by quantum
waaaiiiittttaaa minuutttee here.... it discharges the pack as a whole?!? are you sure? if that is true then its really just a dynapulse discharger!
what people are asking here is if each cell is individually discharged. if not, then it cannot be compared to the muchmore ctx-d/2. i gots to think that there might be a understanding here about how this device works, what would be the point of having individual cell contacts in a tray format? only to read voltage/IR of each cell but not discharge individually?
then again, i guess you get what you pay for and maybe this is a glorified dynapulse. i tend not to think so.... can someone confirm either way? a purchase decision is on the line here!
what people are asking here is if each cell is individually discharged. if not, then it cannot be compared to the muchmore ctx-d/2. i gots to think that there might be a understanding here about how this device works, what would be the point of having individual cell contacts in a tray format? only to read voltage/IR of each cell but not discharge individually?
then again, i guess you get what you pay for and maybe this is a glorified dynapulse. i tend not to think so.... can someone confirm either way? a purchase decision is on the line here!
#28
Pat Clark - Do you work for trinity? Just wondering where you get your info.
#30
Bob - Just asking because the info he is providing is not the same as what has been commonly accepted from trinity. As a hobby shop owner (and DPD owner) I would like to know exactly how the tray works. I have some on the shelf in my store and dont want to give out false info about them.
Corey
Corey