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malkiy 11-15-2024 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisP (Post 16143628)
Specs I've seen for 110* FHCS was still a 1.3mm head height for an M3

Ahhh didn’t know RC fasteners were 110 degrees. Where I work the majority of the fasteners are 100 degree.

Mig89 11-15-2024 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by malkiy (Post 16143641)
Ahhh didn’t know RC fasteners were 110 degrees. Where I work the majority of the fasteners are 100 degree.

Nah 110 isn't standard but it's doable. 100 is standard I believe and 82 is the next common thing. I'm a machine designer and when I first started I got drilled for calling out the wrong c'sink angle lol.

gigaplex 11-15-2024 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mig89 (Post 16143606)
simple solution for simple problems.
https://exeterrcspeedway.com/product...20pcs-53275312

That's just the same type of screw that I already linked 🤔

busman 11-15-2024 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by malkiy (Post 16143639)
Keeping a 1mm chassis flat during the machining process would be difficult.

Mike, Remember this is 2024-5, not 94-5

And we actually know nothing except hearsay in this regard.

Its an associated we’re talking about, just like Chevrolet door hinges everything could be bonded, wouldn’t that be a crapshow!

It’s all just guesswork, so imagine the worst. Then you’ll be surprised

Mig89 11-15-2024 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by gigaplex (Post 16143690)
That's just the same type of screw that I already linked 🤔

It's for those who will say so and so company is copying xray or so people won't over think the screws.

OVA 11-15-2024 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=malkiy;16143639]Keeping a 1mm chassis flat during the machining process would be difficult.[/QUO,

OVA 11-15-2024 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by malkiy (Post 16143639)
Keeping a 1mm chassis flat during the machining process would be difficult.

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gigaplex 11-15-2024 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by OVA (Post 16143772)
just maybe
they could do the machining first than grind down to 1mm thickness

Grinding down with a machine?

Though if you did that you'd waste a lot of raw material.

OVA 11-15-2024 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by gigaplex (Post 16143773)
Grinding down with a machine?

Though if you did that you'd waste a lot of raw material.

I was talking about grinder for final thickness
as any person who work as machinist know what I am getting at
beside it would be too expensive

Themechanic 11-16-2024 04:02 AM

If they are carbon steel chassis might end up on an episode of forged in fire. Some Damascus forging business

1/8 IC Fan 11-16-2024 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by OVA (Post 16143781)
I was talking about grinder for final thickness
as any person who work as machinist know what I am getting at
beside it would be too expensive

Yes, you are talking about a surface grinder, and on those you can grind it down to less than a papers thickness as the steel plate is held on with an electro magnat.

malkiy 11-16-2024 06:56 AM

I’m not a materials expert but I would guess you could prevent deformation during the machining process by picking the right pre-heat treat process and alining the grain direction.

1/8 IC Fan 11-16-2024 07:55 AM

For steel you heat treat after, and that is based on requirements. Same for all steels. I am not sure they are going to spring for steel billet over a CRS or HRS sheet material, that cost is way too much to waste away as a simple chassis plate.

Mig89 11-16-2024 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by malkiy (Post 16143855)
I’m not a materials expert but I would guess you could prevent deformation during the machining process by picking the right pre-heat treat process and alining the grain direction.

I'm a firm believer a good machine shop can easily machine and hold tolerances when using steel. If you're turning the material into beacon, means not enough cooling for the speed they're trying to run. The blanks can be cut on a waterjet to remove a lot of the excuse material and then finish on the mill to eliminate the heat created.

I think these are expensive because they were one offs and the companies didn't do full production runs that get them the great pricing. But I wouldn't think too much into these chassis. Everything I heard about is that they're very edge. I'm going to assume the flex charaterics need some testing before they are even offered to public. Ryan Maker said they're essentially a consumable because of how easily you can damage. Hara said the same thing. IDK about you guys, but I don't want a chassis I gotta replace after a decent hit.

dawgmeat 11-16-2024 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by bmwjoon (Post 16143617)
I feel like 1mm spring steel is unconfirmed. 1.5-1.75mm is easier for my mind to accept as probable.

Looking forward to actual pictures. Still love MTC2.


once again, I actually picked up the car for about 2 to 3 minutes on two separate days at the worlds and the first question I asked was how thick is the chassis I was told by the person who designed the car that it was 1mm., visually it is thinner than 1.5 mm. Chassis is shaped similar to the AMX and get this………..the rear arms don’t connect to the chassis


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