Tamiya TB Evolution V
#421
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hey guys...
Considering going back to a tamiya ride and looking at the evo 5. What do you get in the kit? Which toe blocks? Springs? Sway bars?
Also, where is a good place to get one from?
What spares are recommended... I have heaps of spares for my 415's so only the different parts...
Thanx...
Considering going back to a tamiya ride and looking at the evo 5. What do you get in the kit? Which toe blocks? Springs? Sway bars?
Also, where is a good place to get one from?
What spares are recommended... I have heaps of spares for my 415's so only the different parts...
Thanx...
#423
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Originally Posted by MR JOLLY
just drill hole or ream it so you can put hex drive straight in to undo & adjust
I've now sorted my car (had the steering bell crank ball joint in the wrong place... opps), and it's all setup properly... which maybe a bit premature given I won't be able to run the car for a while :'(
#424
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when i used your setup block sheet
with 1xa - 1 e it comes out 5 drgree toe in on the table
i want 1 degree toe out front
shall i put x on ??
to many shim`s on this car bloody loads
spur gear is even harder to change then evo 4 (if you had the 2 piece motor mount that is )
nearly all built with nitride sus pins & nitride shock shaft`s
blue & Ti screw set on
thing that i noticed ,that might help stop bevel pinions stripping ,put more shims on the input shafts to push bevel pinion deeper into the gearbox to have better face contact with bevel gear, you can then shovety the diff side to side to get the play with out binding
since the diff setup uses 0.03mm shims either side you have a lot to play with
when i dine it per manual (my perssonal feeling) was the bevel pinion is to far away from the gear
hope this helps
only stripped 1 gear on my evo 4 running indoors @ break neck speed
i have had SD from the start & eneded up with a lcg , so shaft & me are like husband & wife
with 1xa - 1 e it comes out 5 drgree toe in on the table
i want 1 degree toe out front
shall i put x on ??
to many shim`s on this car bloody loads
spur gear is even harder to change then evo 4 (if you had the 2 piece motor mount that is )
nearly all built with nitride sus pins & nitride shock shaft`s
blue & Ti screw set on
thing that i noticed ,that might help stop bevel pinions stripping ,put more shims on the input shafts to push bevel pinion deeper into the gearbox to have better face contact with bevel gear, you can then shovety the diff side to side to get the play with out binding
since the diff setup uses 0.03mm shims either side you have a lot to play with
when i dine it per manual (my perssonal feeling) was the bevel pinion is to far away from the gear
hope this helps
only stripped 1 gear on my evo 4 running indoors @ break neck speed
i have had SD from the start & eneded up with a lcg , so shaft & me are like husband & wife
#425
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Originally Posted by MR JOLLY
when i used your setup block sheet
with 1xa - 1 e it comes out 5 drgree toe in on the table
i want 1 degree toe out front
shall i put x on ??
to many shim`s on this car bloody loads
spur gear is even harder to change then evo 4 (if you had the 2 piece motor mount that is )
nearly all built with nitride sus pins & nitride shock shaft`s
blue & Ti screw set on
thing that i noticed ,that might help stop bevel pinions stripping ,put more shims on the input shafts to push bevel pinion deeper into the gearbox to have better face contact with bevel gear, you can then shovety the diff side to side to get the play with out binding
since the diff setup uses 0.03mm shims either side you have a lot to play with
when i dine it per manual (my perssonal feeling) was the bevel pinion is to far away from the gear
hope this helps
only stripped 1 gear on my evo 4 running indoors @ break neck speed
i have had SD from the start & eneded up with a lcg , so shaft & me are like husband & wife
with 1xa - 1 e it comes out 5 drgree toe in on the table
i want 1 degree toe out front
shall i put x on ??
to many shim`s on this car bloody loads
spur gear is even harder to change then evo 4 (if you had the 2 piece motor mount that is )
nearly all built with nitride sus pins & nitride shock shaft`s
blue & Ti screw set on
thing that i noticed ,that might help stop bevel pinions stripping ,put more shims on the input shafts to push bevel pinion deeper into the gearbox to have better face contact with bevel gear, you can then shovety the diff side to side to get the play with out binding
since the diff setup uses 0.03mm shims either side you have a lot to play with
when i dine it per manual (my perssonal feeling) was the bevel pinion is to far away from the gear
hope this helps
only stripped 1 gear on my evo 4 running indoors @ break neck speed
i have had SD from the start & eneded up with a lcg , so shaft & me are like husband & wife
For 2.5, X/E is what you want
1 deg on the front... D/B
I'll have a look at the pinion gear shimming, got plenty of time before I run it... ta
#426
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Originally Posted by Dragonfire
hey guys...
Considering going back to a tamiya ride and looking at the evo 5. What do you get in the kit? Which toe blocks? Springs? Sway bars?
Also, where is a good place to get one from?
What spares are recommended... I have heaps of spares for my 415's so only the different parts...
Thanx...
Considering going back to a tamiya ride and looking at the evo 5. What do you get in the kit? Which toe blocks? Springs? Sway bars?
Also, where is a good place to get one from?
What spares are recommended... I have heaps of spares for my 415's so only the different parts...
Thanx...
Springs: four yellow springs
sway bars: silver. but looks to be the same diameter as tamiya yellow or blue sway bars. someone with calipers can measure and confirm.
recommended spares: one of each? caster block, steering knuckles, a set of arms. (arms comes with one rear and one front).
also get those flange tubes that go underneath the steering and is held in by a 3x8 button head screw.
good luck!
#427
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Originally Posted by Hebiki
also get those flange tubes that go underneath the steering and is held in by a 3x8 button head screw.
good luck!
good luck!
, but if you lose these then tobee craft do some nice blue shouldered 1 piece screw that get`s rid of the flange tubes
Edd
i`l try harder to look properly
#428
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Originally Posted by Hebiki
sway bars: silver. but looks to be the same diameter as tamiya yellow or blue sway bars. someone with calipers can measure and confirm.
#429
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built the evo 5 , then took the front input shaft out again & redone the shimming
if you shim it like the manual say`s , then the input shaft moves about to much , if you turn 1 wheel on front you can see the shaft moving up & down
manual has it 4(6) xME1 shims bevel gear side & 5(8)x ME2 shims on centre cup side , in brackets i have put this on mine
shaft is much more sound & doesn`t move around alot (binding isn`t noticeble either)
you might use 1 less either side or you might not
HTH
the rear is no prob`s, (not keen on circlips on bevel either )
if you shim it like the manual say`s , then the input shaft moves about to much , if you turn 1 wheel on front you can see the shaft moving up & down
manual has it 4(6) xME1 shims bevel gear side & 5(8)x ME2 shims on centre cup side , in brackets i have put this on mine
shaft is much more sound & doesn`t move around alot (binding isn`t noticeble either)
you might use 1 less either side or you might not
HTH
the rear is no prob`s, (not keen on circlips on bevel either )
#430
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So the evo5 comes with only 1 stabiliser at both ends, one toe setting both ends. are the stabilisers the same as the 415's? What is the toe setting? Does it come with the 0 degree rear hubs(alloy)?
Can someone confirm that u can achive a rollout of about 20mm with rubbers? thats an fdr of about 10:1
thanx...
Can someone confirm that u can achive a rollout of about 20mm with rubbers? thats an fdr of about 10:1
thanx...
#431
Originally Posted by Dragonfire
So the evo5 comes with only 1 stabiliser at both ends, one toe setting both ends. are the stabilisers the same as the 415's? What is the toe setting? Does it come with the 0 degree rear hubs(alloy)?
Can someone confirm that u can achive a rollout of about 20mm with rubbers? thats an fdr of about 10:1
thanx...
Can someone confirm that u can achive a rollout of about 20mm with rubbers? thats an fdr of about 10:1
thanx...
There are no extra toe blocks - only 2x Ds, 1x XA, 1x E. The 2x Ds are used on the front which gives the rear end 3 degs with the other blocks. In theory you could run a bit of inboard toe at the front (E and D) and run 2.5 degs rear toe (XA and D). And that's with the supplied 0 deg alloy rear hubs.
I'm not sure if you'll get 20mm rollout. I just finished building mine last night for stock with 72T spur and 29T pinion (48 pitch). That combo gives a 33.75 rollout and there's not a lot of clearance for that spur. I wouldn't think you could go much bigger than a 75T spur before reaching for dremel. With that spur and pinion combo, the motor was mounted 1/3 of the way from the end of the mounting slots (relative to the centre of the car).
#432
Maximum allowable spur is 72-73 tooth (48 pitch) and a 20 mm rollout is not achievable by the looks of it.
#434
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From what I remember, the upper deck is narrow on both sides of the spur meaning you can't dremel much. Is there clearance at the bottom for a bigger spur? If there is, you could easily "camber" the edges of the upper deck next to the spur which would allow a few more teeth. The smallest rollout I have run recently is 23mm which would be about 8.7:1. So mayb there is no probs with a bit of work but would rather know before I buy considering it is normal for me to get two kits at once.
I assume RC-Champ is still the best source of all things tamiya?
I assume RC-Champ is still the best source of all things tamiya?
#435
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Originally Posted by Dragonfire
From what I remember, the upper deck is narrow on both sides of the spur meaning you can't dremel much. Is there clearance at the bottom for a bigger spur? If there is, you could easily "camber" the edges of the upper deck next to the spur which would allow a few more teeth. The smallest rollout I have run recently is 23mm which would be about 8.7:1. So mayb there is no probs with a bit of work but would rather know before I buy considering it is normal for me to get two kits at once.
I assume RC-Champ is still the best source of all things tamiya?
I assume RC-Champ is still the best source of all things tamiya?
HiH
Ed