ZackM

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I fully support them doing the updates, continuous improvement is a good thing. The problem is most people thinking these small updates are going to make or break their club race program. In a few years when the improvement stack up to something that I can justify, then I will go ahead and spend the money.

Zack

rccartips

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Agreed for low grip. This race was super high grip where they all had traction roll issues, the best condition for the lowest cg car (i.e Awesomatix) to shine. However the big Awesomatix team I think only managed 5th at best.

The setup sheet posted by the winner indicated Mi8. If it is not an Mi8 that is sold to the public then it can be misleading marketing.

If it was an Mi8 then their marketing needs to be developed, not the car

scott.langford

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Theres a few things on Orlowski’s setup sheet that would indicate differences to the standard available Mi8 HGT available to the public.

The use of plastic hubs - this isn’t commonly used on any team setups I have seen except from Robert Krens. New plastic hubs?

1.25 mm upper hub shimming - this indicates an altered hub design as I haven’t seen anything under 3mm be used by the team. In my experience, anything under 2.5mm on the standard available hubs wasn’t useable as the car would scrub too much speed in the corners.

Low diffs - the team has been using high diffs, especially on carpet this season. The standard Mi8 and the updated HGT needed high diffs on carpet to carry any corner speed in my experience. Updated bulkheads?

2.5-2.8 front spring - this is just speculation, but we might see shorter shocks with updated spring rates. The current core hi response springs are very stiff for the updated HGT geometry. I’m aware this could be the Xray spring.

Maybe all of this is wrong, just throwing ideas out there. I know we’ve seen pictures of altered hubs on Orlowski’s car from ETS, so I’m expecting something new there. Also some BB outdrive driveshafts could be a possibility.

Guess we gotta wait a bit longer to find out!

Robbob

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I'd have to dig through some folders to find the axles and DCJ's that were spotted on his car too.

Def different hubs and steering system.

bertrandsv87

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Looks like a nitro tc hub...

h2e

looks like xray hubs. might be in line with xray springs used on some recent setup sheets. also the drive shafts are finally hollow... does that mean we go away from the wobbly hexes?

bertrandsv87

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Hexes are very tricky and need to be super clean, unwarped, to spin true...Tire plastic wheels and badly threaded nuts with too much loctite are usually the cause of unwanted wobble after verifying that the tire is balanced on a tire sander..

Pharane0

Where are those pics from ? And, if you can, can you please post the other pics you have ?

thank youuu

Marcos.J

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ZackM

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Orlowski top seed and leading q1 at ETS this weekend. Hopefully some more information will come from it!

Zack

rccartips

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Maybe they are reading the forum

TQ&WIN at ETS - Euro Touring Series rd5 in Daun, Germany with my Schumacher R/C Racing prototype car

bertrandsv87

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Go Orlowski go....

scott.langford

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Looks like a new rear diff. I wonder if they went to a composite design

Rozzy

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I have been reading for days. I have a new mi8 Carbon on high grip black carpet, very smooth. The problem I am having is it rolls in corners at speed. Much like a semi going around a corner at to high of speed. Started with kit set up. Since I have raised the roll center and stiffer sway bars and springs. Front tires are glued. It goes up on both tires on that side get out of it a bit and it comes down. Curious about droop, that is new to me. I have the hudy 10 mm blocks and gauge. What should I be looking at for droop at the lowest point on the arm. Still learning. Thanks for the help!!!

Holmenkollen

I think an alloy chassis would be much better on that grip. With carbon chassis, I would try to have a low roll center, like 0 shims under the wishbones and maybe 1 mm under the camber links. Also softer springs. A droop setting of 6 front and 5 rear should be a good starting point.