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#661
Gearing needs to be opened up for pancar classes some of the motors like more gear and some like less not that it makes the cars faster but the fall off in 8 min run is less and the motor needs more speed at Cleveland this year they were so slow it was boring we should have been taking shots while waiting for the car to go down the straight. Very slow!
#662
Either way it's impossible to make every motor the same so gearing needs to be open. Like I said some fade more depending on the gearing. Some get hotter then others with the fixed gear and tire size is open so what's the matter with opening the gear. And it was found that alot of guys weren't running the spec gear do to there sponsor not making that gear size. I'm not pointing fingers just saying there don't need to be so many limitations is all
#663
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Either way it's impossible to make every motor the same so gearing needs to be open. Like I said some fade more depending on the gearing. Some get hotter then others with the fixed gear and tire size is open so what's the matter with opening the gear. And it was found that alot of guys weren't running the spec gear do to there sponsor not making that gear size. I'm not pointing fingers just saying there don't need to be so many limitations is all
even with that said -- our most recent large event, snowbirds, stock 1/12th was SO DAM CLOSE. with fixed gearing.
i'd like to hear about which can-am motor races you've attended and thought motors weren't the same speed. please air your dirty laundry based upon FACTS
#664
Its not about speed but fade didnt say anything about speed besides the champs race and I would bet 95% of the guys that ran it would say the same. They were slow for that big track. These are facts from three different motors at the same track mine seems to be the only one that likes the fixed gear. One guys needs two less teeth on the pinion and the third seems to like 2 more teeth which is odd but his motor seems to like more gear. This is not a negative statement hanulec just my thought on the situation been running can am since it was introduced and it's good for racing just needs some tweaking. There my dirty draws are clean lol!
#665
Its not about speed but fade didnt say anything about speed besides the champs race and I would bet 95% of the guys that ran it would say the same. They were slow for that big track. These are facts from three different motors at the same track mine seems to be the only one that likes the fixed gear. One guys needs two less teeth on the pinion and the third seems to like 2 more teeth which is odd but his motor seems to like more gear. This is not a negative statement hanulec just my thought on the situation been running can am since it was introduced and it's good for racing just needs some tweaking. There my dirty draws are clean lol!
i disagree w/ this statement -- sorry. the only place that is questionable about gearing is the pan car classes w/ foam tires.
even with that said -- our most recent large event, snowbirds, stock 1/12th was SO DAM CLOSE. with fixed gearing.
i'd like to hear about which can-am motor races you've attended and thought motors weren't the same speed. please air your dirty laundry based upon FACTS
even with that said -- our most recent large event, snowbirds, stock 1/12th was SO DAM CLOSE. with fixed gearing.
i'd like to hear about which can-am motor races you've attended and thought motors weren't the same speed. please air your dirty laundry based upon FACTS
My thoughts are that if you want to drive a faster car, drive in a faster class.
#666
That's just it I'm not complaining about speed except for the champs can am is good for racing I said that already but in my opinion there's no reason to spec the gear in 12th scale as I said earlier the motors like different ratios why is it hard to understand I'm talking about fade not overall speed and it's funny cause the one that noticed it is a factory driver and has been running 12th scale for 20 plus years. Fade is real when your running 1cell batteries just trying to cut down on overall fade. That's it no need for all the bickering
#667
Tech Elite
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After long break I returned to racing. I got to say Can-Am 1/12 with 10.5 and Spec tires has got to be the best thing ever.
I been running at 360v2 in Ny and it is a med to large track and the combination has been amazing. The racing is super close the speed is driveable for a variety of skill levels.
It a no bullshit class. Just show up and drive. If your slow it because your slow...
17.5 would be a little dull on track the size of 360v2 but at small tight track it would be great.
Viva la "Can-Am"
I been running at 360v2 in Ny and it is a med to large track and the combination has been amazing. The racing is super close the speed is driveable for a variety of skill levels.
It a no bullshit class. Just show up and drive. If your slow it because your slow...
17.5 would be a little dull on track the size of 360v2 but at small tight track it would be great.
Viva la "Can-Am"
#668
Are you sure it's a 10.5?
The way my 12 CA is geared and timed, seems like a 17.5 or 13.5. No wind marking on the motor. Just CanAm 12 stock.
The way my 12 CA is geared and timed, seems like a 17.5 or 13.5. No wind marking on the motor. Just CanAm 12 stock.
#669
There's a can am stock motor and a super stock motor which is marked. Ss on the can
#670
I ran TC for the first time a few weeks ago, and it was great. Don't worry about gear, just drive and worry about setup changes. It definitely shows where your driving skills rank and not so much your gearing abilities.
#671
Tech Champion
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After long break I returned to racing. I got to say Can-Am 1/12 with 10.5 and Spec tires has got to be the best thing ever.
I been running at 360v2 in Ny and it is a med to large track and the combination has been amazing. The racing is super close the speed is driveable for a variety of skill levels.
It a no bullshit class. Just show up and drive. If your slow it because your slow...
17.5 would be a little dull on track the size of 360v2 but at small tight track it would be great.
Viva la "Can-Am"
I been running at 360v2 in Ny and it is a med to large track and the combination has been amazing. The racing is super close the speed is driveable for a variety of skill levels.
It a no bullshit class. Just show up and drive. If your slow it because your slow...
17.5 would be a little dull on track the size of 360v2 but at small tight track it would be great.
Viva la "Can-Am"
#672
Its not about speed but fade didnt say anything about speed besides the champs race and I would bet 95% of the guys that ran it would say the same. They were slow for that big track. These are facts from three different motors at the same track mine seems to be the only one that likes the fixed gear. One guys needs two less teeth on the pinion and the third seems to like 2 more teeth which is odd but his motor seems to like more gear. This is not a negative statement hanulec just my thought on the situation been running can am since it was introduced and it's good for racing just needs some tweaking. There my dirty draws are clean lol!
#673
Tech Master
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Canam
Previously I’ve not been a fan of the CanAm concept and have posted as such. Spec motors and tires, yes. Handout CanAm motors, not so much. But recent developments have changed my outlook. So what’s changed? Well the organized club racing at the only venue anywhere near where I live now has pretty much fizzled out. So, sadly, I will no longer have anywhere to practice or to club race regularly. That being the case, it’s going to be pretty difficult for me to stay on top of my racing program as i’ve always done for over 25 years. Next indoor season, I’ll likely only get to race at a couple of the bigger events, like perhaps the SlowBirds, the Halloween Classic and or the US Indoor Champs. And when I show up I’ll be super rusty and out of touch. Not having to worry at all about anything motor related ( timing, gearing, motor selection, etc) will be a great help to someone like me who rarely gets any opportunity to race. So I hereby retract my previous less than positive statements about the way CanAm motors are handled. My own situation (with no viable local track available) has opened my eyes and made me realize the true benefit of the CamAm motors concept.
Last edited by vafactor; 03-26-2019 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Auto correct
#674
I agree with this statement having watched it first hand. There is a variable with 12th scale and that is that the tires are constantly getting smaller, therefore the rollout is going to change. In a rubber tire class such as F1 or GTR, the rollout doesn't change. I'm sorry but having a fixed pinion rule isn't a good idea at all. I dislike it so much that I have sold my 12th scale car. If you're going to spec a gear, then fine, I'll run a rubber tire class.
Once again, Can am didnt spec the gear for the class. That is the Races that are doing that.
#675
So the Canadian Nats ran a 58/72 fixed gear. 2 teeth higher than any other race. The change in tire size is almost non factor. I ran fastest lap when my tires were the smallest during the event. 3 different motors, all felt the same to me.
Once again, Can am didnt spec the gear for the class. That is the Races that are doing that.
Once again, Can am didnt spec the gear for the class. That is the Races that are doing that.