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Welcome to the EB410 Wiki page.

Basic Stats/Features:
  • Shaft drive (tapered AL for light weight and straightness)
  • Gear differentials (all 3)
  • Low Angle CVAs (with captured pins so no ejecting them!)
  • Durable stub axles with 12mm hexes and optional offset adjustments
  • Reverse bellcrank steering system
  • Quick access bulkheads (for easy diff maintenance and tuning)
  • Spllt center diff holder (for easy diff maintenance and tuning)
  • 8th scale style motor mount (for easy mesh adjustment)
  • 13mm big bore shocks
  • 3.5mm shock shafts
  • Droop screws

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Servo Horns
Tekno included a plastic servo horn but also offers an aluminum one. This is highly recommended. Here's a list of servo horns that have been found to work:
Gearing:
Works out of the box for mod or 13.5.
  • Preference for Associated factory team pinions
  • Start mod gearing around 21t pinion
  • Start 13.5 gearing around 29t pinion with the stock spur (81tooth). If using a Tekin Spec R 13.5, start with a 24t pinion for medium sized indoor tracks.
  • Internal Gear Ratio: 2.5:1
  • For comparison:
  • B64 is 2.47:1
  • 22-4 is 2.4:1
  • YZ4 is 2.6:1

Wheels
  • B6/22/rb6 wheels direct fit
  • 22-4/XB4 front wheels direct fit
  • B64 front wheels will fit, but you need the +1 hexes (can use #TKR1654X, which is a +1mm hex)
  • 22 2wd front wheels will also fit, possibly a good option for carpet.

Setup Sheets and other documentation
Setup sheets for all Tekno RC vehicles can be found here. Please be sure to try our recommended setup. It works very well on most tracks.
Piston Drills:
Some of our setups recommend using pistons that are enlarged. For instance 4x1.9 or 3x2.0. To drill the pistons we recommend the following:
Aftermarket Upgrades:
Warranty Policy:
Tekno RC is the only company in the industry that will give 50% off of parts if returned to them using the General Warranty return policy found on their website. The parts can be lightly used or completely abused, as long as the part is still being produced it's covered!


Build Tips:
  • When fastening the steering posts with a 5.5mm socket wrench, you can back space the socket with some nuts to help drive the post into the bulk head

  • Place an alcohol swab over metal threads and drive screws through the swab to clean both sides of threads before applying thread lock

  • Use a metallic marker to indicate what fluids you have filled in your diffs for easy identification

  • Apply thin layer of grease on crown gears to help hold gaskets in place for easy hole alignment

  • Bags F and H have 2 different size set screws, be sure to use the smaller 3x3mm screws for the hexes or you may run into problems installing wheels over the hex if you use the longer 3x4mm screws
  • To make is easier to slip the o-rings on the shock cap bleeder screws, apply a drop of shock oil and slip them over a 1.5mm hex bit, then line up the bit with the screw and transfer the o-ring over using fingernails or needle nose pliers
  • pinch+rotate shock caps in 17mm hex wrench to improve roundness
    More shock build tips here
  • Use a 3.05mm drill bit or 3.05mm Kyosho arm reamer, 1/8" drill bits are not recommended because they are 3.17mm in diameter and tend to introduce too much slop, the pins are roughly 2.97mm in diameter
  • Replace the stock 3x14mm screws (TKR1405) with 3x20mm screws (TKR1409) in step H-10 in the manual in order to increase durability to the bulkhead.

  • When installing the front and rear differentials into the bulkheads be careful when tightening the 3x8mm screws of the cover that holds the diff in place. Bottom out the screws first (use a hand driver and make it hand tight) then check the diff to make sure it rotates smooth. If it binds up, start by backing out each screw 1/8-1/4 of a turn until the both front and rear diffs move freely. The plastic threads will keep the screws in place so don't worry if you think the screws are not secure.
  • When installing the steering hub kingpins (TKR6596), drive each one in hand tight only. Then check the movement of the steering hub. If it binds up, back out the kingpin screws by 1/8-1/4 of a turn until it moves freely. Then install the set screws (TKR1601) to hold it in place. Only drive the set screw in until you make contact with the kingpin. Do not force it.
  • If using the low profile servo mount, be sure to use smaller OD (outter diameter) washers to avoid rubbing on the center drive shaft. Protek ball stud washers are a good example of the acceptable diameter. You can chose to not run washers though it is recommended to use them as it makes for a more secure mount.

  • Ball Cup Alternative from AE: ASC91453. These are used as a harder composite option if you are not happy with the softer stock plastics. Note that these are approximately 2-3mm shorter and require compensation when building your kit to the manual specs to achieve proper camber/toe settings


  • Wheel Nut Alternative: Yokomo 4mm Thin Aluminum Serrated Flanged Nut

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...-n4flt/p541494


  • Moving Rear Shocks to the Front of the A-arm

    This is the break down of what's required by one of the Eb410 FB users.

    Joey A.

    So since there has been some people wondering about running the shocks in the front of the arm I though I would try explaining everything that I did to get them to work and why. My goal was to run as much stock stuff as possible with the least amount of modifications.

    -Arms- need to be flipped and 1mm shaved off the back (spacing the arm farther back) running it this way the car is still a mm shorter then stock but more material could be removed for more adjustability but I have found no need to make the car longer.

    -Inner ball stud- there are 2 ways of mounting, the first can be used with the stock plastic tower. All you need to do is use a 10mm ball stud instead of the lower shock mount screw and a little clearance from the shock tower and diff case. Using this method will work but the ball stud is moved lower and farther in then the stock locations which requires different pivot locations to try and correct roll centers. The other way (preferred) using the option carbon tower drill a hole higher and farther out if done properly you will be able to get the ball stud location in the correct hight(0mm) and between the two stock locations.

    -Shocks- only 2 changes from stock you will need to space the top shock mount 2mm out. You will also need to run around 1.5-2mm less droop depending on your setup.

    -Sway bar- this is the hardest part of the swap. This can be done a million ways I chose to print a mount in the stock ball stud location which allowed me to use the stock swaybars and arm mounting position. You can also bend your own bar and use the stock mounts on the back. You will have to drill your arms on the other side and closer to the pivot for this to work (remember you will need a thinner bar the closer you mount the lower pickup on the arm to get the same feeling as stock).

    -Other- you will need to remove the drop screws on the rear arm. Depending on rear rims,hubs,ballcups and setup you might need to clearance the outer ball cup so it doesn’t rub on the wheel.

    -Why- the benefits of running the shocks in the front are the ability to run a softer rear shock package without giving up corner speed and pack. The car will land without chassis slapping or packing out as easy allowing you to drive the car harder and it corners flatter and rotates faster without losing rear grip.

    Sorry for the shity grammar,
    TJR

    Sway bar mount for forward mounted shocks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tekno-EB410...4AAOSwYNxahFkq

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Old 06-23-2017, 01:21 PM
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looks like nothing right now. Probably lots of testing.

I am curious if they are going to take any direction from AE on that whole club spec racer thing. I know tekno in general is just full throttle racing kits, but curious if they see good coming out of what AE is doing, they could be factoring some of that info there own "club spec" down the road.

Heck, Its something personally I would like to see from all manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by Cain
looks like nothing right now. Probably lots of testing.

I am curious if they are going to take any direction from AE on that whole club spec racer thing. I know tekno in general is just full throttle racing kits, but curious if they see good coming out of what AE is doing, they could be factoring some of that info there own "club spec" down the road.

Heck, Its something personally I would like to see from all manufacturers.
I think a club racer eb410 with Maclan's soon to be small stock ESC and a standard MRR motor would be freaking awesome lol. I'm with you, I hope more companies start doing what AE did with their club racers
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Absolutely, would love to see TLR, Tekno and other do 13.5 club racer. I love 4wd and a club racer makes it very practical for everyone to do it. 4wd 13.5 is the way I wish my 2wd would drive.
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Unfortunately I don't think multi-brand club racer kits would have much parity. One brand will have a better "club racer" than the others and would end up being the best, even if it's something as simple as a .08sec servo $60 servo included when the others have $20 .15sec servos.
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Originally Posted by tsair
Unfortunately I don't think multi-brand club racer kits would have much parity. One brand will have a better "club racer" than the others and would end up being the best, even if it's something as simple as a .08sec servo $60 servo included when the others have $20 .15sec servos.
I would see the club racer idea as more for gaining new interest from people who are put off by the usual cost of putting electronics in a new kit. I'm sure most of the fast guys would still be going for the kit version and passing on the club racer. So I don't think there would be the issue of one company beating the rest just because they add a better servo or ESC since it would be marketed more toward the average/new driver.
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I don't see Tekno getting into the gimmick of RTR for club racing. I actually doubt anyone besides AE will do it either. It's easy for them because everything in the kit, is AE (reedy), and even thought it's dubbed "Club Racer" it is of lower quality than their actual kit.

Tekno will not compromise quality & durability just to sell to a different crowd. Tekno is known for great competition vehicles, and I see them sticking to that for sure.
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The thing is Tekno could buck the trend of making a cheapo option and just include there kit with electronics that they "recommend" by partnering up with another manufacturer for a decent price. You'd be surprised how many people like that option who are starting out versus picking and choosing stuff separately.
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Originally Posted by Cain
The thing is Tekno could buck the trend of making a cheapo option and just include there kit with electronics that they "recommend" by partnering up with another manufacturer for a decent price. You'd be surprised how many people like that option who are starting out versus picking and choosing stuff separately.
There's so many options though, and people are biased. I doubt it would work out for Tekno at all, because then they would have a stake in the electronics side. And we all know how finicky electronics can be.

I do get what your saying though, just don't see it as a viable option for them.
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There's so many options though, and people are biased. I doubt it would work out for Tekno at all, because then they would have a stake in the electronics side. And we all know how finicky electronics can be.

I do get what your saying though, just don't see it as a viable option for them.
Have faith, if you build it, they will come

Tekin + Tekno club racer ftw.
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Before we get ahead of ourselves and expect Tekno to release a club racer maybe we should encourage them to release the EB410 first.

If we all mail them cupcakes will it speed to process up?
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Originally Posted by renjie
Before we get ahead of ourselves and expect Tekno to release a club racer maybe we should encourage them to release the EB410 first.

If we all mail them cupcakes will it speed to process up?
Doubtful.....I hear the higher up's like taco's....taco's....and pineapple...
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Originally Posted by renjie
Before we get ahead of ourselves and expect Tekno to release a club racer maybe we should encourage them to release the EB410 first.

If we all mail them cupcakes will it speed to process up?
I wouldn't worry about encouraging them on the club racer as well as the regular vehicle. They are competent enough to walk and chew gum at the same time as the saying goes If they aren't, there wouldn't be the interest in the vehicle at all that's for sure!


At this point, maybe they can take another picture of the wheels from another angle
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Come on, hurry up already, I need a 1/10 scale 4x4 for indoor racing
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My biggest problem will likely be parts support here. The local distributor pushes the other brand he imports more than Tekno. Maybe the Straya dealer will be easier than the Kiwi one.

Sometimes Amain is the best parts support when someone decides to be an RC orphan.

Now, where is that new wheel pic? Must be some new spy pics floating around.
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Originally Posted by renjie
My biggest problem will likely be parts support here. The local distributor pushes the other brand he imports more than Tekno. Maybe the Straya dealer will be easier than the Kiwi one.

Sometimes Amain is the best parts support when someone decides to be an RC orphan.

Now, where is that new wheel pic? Must be some new spy pics floating around.
I am thankful that my local track loves Tekno so parts are never an issue. Plus Teknos are built solid, so the need for parts in general is limited.
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