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Braxamus 02-09-2018 07:15 AM

from what I read last night the new 6.1's have a different chassis it is shorter and I think it has different holes but not sure as far as compatibility goes from old to new.

StadiumRC 02-09-2018 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by bobf24 (Post 15153255)
does anyone have any experience running the current laydown on a dusty loose outdoor track?

The lack of a gear cover on the new B6.1d has me curious if rocks and crap are going to get into the spur/pinion constantly or if the body wraps around close enough that its not needed?

AE stated on their Facebook page that a standup 3 gear transmission is also going to be available. I had the same questions about running on loose outdoor surfaces. There are so many tuning options now I think one could adapt to just about any condition.

olds45512 02-09-2018 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by aracefan (Post 15153280)
I'm sure it can be figured it out, I run the Exotek motor fan mount on my B6D...

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server14...0.1280.JPG?c=2

It may just take a little more ingenuity, or a new mount. :lol:

Thanks for the pic! I didn't even know that mount existed and now I have one on the way.

Wildcat1971 02-09-2018 07:47 AM

To clarify, I was referring to inserts in general. The issue with the b5m hub inserts was bearing alignment. Hopefully, their quality of the new parts is good and no crunchy bearings.


- The plan to have a lockout topshaft for 17.5, with a shorter shaft....so the fan should fit on the chassis.

- The new chassis is shorter.. why? They moved the motor back. I assume the chassis is shortest to fill that gap. I think it is shorter between the back of the side rails and the tranny. The section under the motor. If the holes line up and you use the tie rod style brace, you might be able to use the b6 chassis. Just guessing.

- I am not sure it is cost effective to buy all these upgrades to convert to a b6.1. 2x shock towers, 67mm cvd, new rear hubs, new rear arms, new chassis, new gear box and top shaft. That is 100-150 in parts. Might as well build a fresh ride that that point.


*** Overall, I am really pleased with the update the kits. machines pistons, long rear shock bodies and tower, updated gear box, new rear arms, +1 steering ackerman and the new OEM Spur Guard. Even the new front shock tower protector is cool. I honestly think they did enough to justify buying a new kit. Also, oiled bearings instead of greased, is a nice touch. I really feel like AE put real effort into updating the b6.

celt 02-09-2018 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 15153341)
*** Overall, I am really pleased with the update the kits. machines pistons, long rear shock bodies and tower, updated gear box, new rear arms, +1 steering ackerman and the new OEM Spur Guard. Even the new front shock tower protector is cool. I honestly think they did enough to justify buying a new kit. Also, oiled bearings instead of greased, is a nice touch. I really feel like AE put real effort into updating the b6.

Spot on...

An advantage that I see with the slipper spring on the other side is that it should allow for a longer spring, and therefore a larger slipper setting setup window.

Wildcat1971 02-09-2018 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by celt (Post 15153380)
Spot on...

An advantage that I see with the slipper spring on the other side is that it should allow for a longer spring, and therefore a larger slipper setting setup window.

I think the main reason for the change was issues swapping out larger (mod) spur gears. Also that stupid hole on the side of the body, lol.


They included new parts and many of the options parts we were buying in the kit. Plus v2 springs? AE upping their spring game? All good stuff.

Braxamus 02-09-2018 08:58 AM

I agree with you Wildcat it does seem like a conversion kit would be so expensive with all the changes a new kit would actually be more cost effective for most. And neither seems to be priced really high. 319 for the D and think it was 329 for the regular 6.1 I did see where they said the towers were graphite instead of carbon fiber. I do think I'll be looking at one as soon as they are available, or maybe wait a bit till they get thru the first batch and get all the packaging and manual bugs worked out.

Pinkz 02-09-2018 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by aracefan (Post 15153280)
I'm sure it can be figured it out, I run the Exotek motor fan mount on my B6D...

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server14...0.1280.JPG?c=2

It may just take a little more ingenuity, or a new mount. :lol:

picture you attached is not a B6D. as the for B6 picture you attached that is the current most common place fans can be mounted with ease using good double stick tape. but AE is giving us the shaft on the B6.1 series:D

E-Mann 02-09-2018 10:11 AM

B6.1 upgrade parts
 
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Going ONLY off pictures and current priced parts (until we have the manual and parts list) I have done some calculation for full conversion and also what new value the B6.1 has over B6. Attached is the detail. For full conversion it would be about $300. Maybe if you already had 67mm setup and if the current gear diff fits the new gearbox you could get close for $150. I didn't give a value to the rear shock tower as I can't see that being needed. Same could be said for the battery strap but I gave it a cost for reference.

This is just for B6 not B6D

aracefan 02-09-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Pinkz (Post 15153438)
picture you attached is not a B6D. as the for B6 picture you attached that is the current most common place fans can be mounted with ease using good double stick tape. but AE is giving us the shaft on the B6.1 series:D

It could be a B6D, it's not my car (which is a B6D) but my B6D has the laydown tranny and I have the black fan mount setup just like that... but it's also why I put "It may just take a little more ingenuity, or a new mount."

Before I put the laydown tran on the B6D, I used the exact same mount and had it right above the waterfall - directly above the motor... All I'm saying is that just because the "shaft" is now on the opposite side, there will be a way to mount a fan for your motor. Just maybe not where it is in the pic, ie., where it has traditionally been placed. :D

aracefan 02-09-2018 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 15153319)
Thanks for the pic! I didn't even know that mount existed and now I have one on the way.

If you are running a B6D with the kit stand-up transmission, you will need to mount the fan above the waterfall about the center of the motor. Fits under the body easily like this. If you are running a laydown (whether it be a B6 or a B6D) tranny then the fan will mount like in the pic... you will have to trim out the body for it.

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...200472/enhance

Here is my B6D with laydown trans - if you save the pic, and if you can zoom in a little you see I have it mounted up just like the stock photo from Exotek... :rolleyes: I mounted the motor mount ring at the end of the motor just to give a little more clearance and "space". Figured I can always move it if needed, after ~7/8 race days haven't had one problem - and motor hasn't been over 90d, even on the odd occasion we ran a 6 minute main. thing works great! :tire::tire:

rigor 02-09-2018 12:17 PM

Anyone know if TowerHobbies has preorder links available for B6.1D yet? Thanks

olds45512 02-09-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 15153628)
Anyone know if TowerHobbies has preorder links available for B6.1D yet? Thanks

Not sure they're gonna because they are already in the hole to AE for a good bit of money.

rigor 02-09-2018 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 15153633)
Not sure they're gonna because they are already in the hole to AE for a good bit of money.

Oh, right.

I forgot OCRC gives free practice days for every $100 spent on a single purchase, so it makes as much sense for me to purchase through them anyway.

Has there been any mention if these buggies will hit shelves in March?

Good luck to everyone getting pre-orders in :tire:

RacerX11 02-09-2018 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 15153645)
Oh, right.

I forgot OCRC gives free practice days for every $100 spent on a single purchase, so it makes as much sense for me to purchase through them anyway.

Has there been any mention if these buggies will hit shelves in March?

Good luck to everyone getting pre-orders in :tire:

Amain says March 30th on their site as of this time


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