gillbily23

The main tire that is being pushed at the 1/10 buggy track here (Champ Stadium in Sagamihara) is the Panther Switch 2.0 with PL closed cell foams. They work great on my RB6 as long as the track is still somewhat damp but as soon as the track starts drying up then they get really loose. I have run a set for about 5 or 6 practice days and they still have a lot of tread left on them. A couple guys run them on their SC6s as well but they go through them quicker due to the extra weight. The shop also carries the AKA Evo Deja Vu tires but I haven't tried them out yet. All the racers say that the Panthers are better than the AKAs on the track so I just went with them. I want to try some different setups so this thread will be very useful when picking the next set of shoes.

Pulse_

yeah I've the same problem on our local track

when it's damp the aka handlebar clay work great but as soon as it dries the buggy is all over the place

really looking forward a grippy tire for slippery hardpacked tracks with little dust on top

I'm running a light setup on my MP9E so maybe it doesn't help

jpcopeland1

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Typos?

in my 22-4 I am really digging Typos up front, with Chain links in the rear when the track dries up a bit. Maybe not in 8th scale, just throwing out what works for me in wheeler class.

mrfatride

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I run panther rattlers in clay compound currently on both my 1/8 scale buggy and 2wd and soon to be 4wd short course trucks. They hook well up until the track gets dried out which at that point they lose some grip but overall do well without saucing tires

dtgolfing

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I've been running ions on my 1/10 2wd on the clay track I run on. They slide around when the track is wet, but when it dries out a little bit, they really hook up nicely.

oldnfat

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Are you running at the rc clubhouse in warren?

MOmo

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It probably too difficult to gauge, but....


"IN THEORY" (Given track conditions do change, and watering etc and continual wear by cars also racing on the track)

Do people find changing from one tire to another between rounds maintains the traction consistency? All things being equal, you have different pattern tires with different inserts, or even the same inserts...

Has anyone done a back to back test of lets say a

Gold BC with AKA red
vs
Gold BC with DT
vs
GOLD BC with Open Cell
vs
Gold BC with PL Blue insert


Obviously there are TONS of variable and I don't know that one could find a fair comparison. Realistically, the environment couldn't change and it seems to me the testing would need to be in a sort of Vacuum to get the kind of results you need.

Its no wonder people go poor with various tires and types and compounds.

I did appreciate the feedback by Teufel and his reporting.


In all honesty, for me, our Primary indoor track is carpet and in many respects the "Tire war" is over. There are no Pin style tires allowed and ONLY SC are allowed foam tires. Most everyone runs a variation of a slick tire and we use a controlled sauce. It does make it nice only having a couple of tires in my box depending on the layout and how much traction is laid down. I don't go thru nearly the tire wear, as when we raced on dirt. Folks still run on clay and depending on how abrasive the track gets, as Zak pointed out, I have seen people kill a pair of tires in a Club race in 1 night of racing.



MOmo

Rico54

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The electrons seems to grab the clay very well on a 4wd, but going to try the bar codes next. Been told they are still doing very well for the pro's on clay

needknees

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If the track is only getting watered once a week it likely will not have enough moisture for clay compound tires to work well.

Depending on the amount of dust I would be looking at a tire with a little more pin in supersoft compound. Gridirons, possibly Impacts. Handlebars will likely work as well but I'd be running SS not clay compound. When the new Chainlink tire gets released that will probably be your best bet in AKA rubber.

Track looks awesome!

tc5 man

Might seem odd but the Panther switch tires well broken in with wear work good on a hard packed mixed clay surface . If it stays moist and somewhat dry they still work good .

On hard packed pure clay that is not real wet smoother low treaded tires work better.

WadexInducTion

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I sort of did this, only it was with Dirt webs and I only tried Aka and the JC Dirt tech inserts. I HATED the dirt tech. It was way too firm. Maybe it would be good after a lot of break in time, but I put like 6-7 packs on it and it never got better so I cut them out and put aka reds in. The reds brand new were still better than the slightly broken in dirt techs.

Kings Kid

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how did the dirtwebs fair? Have you tried chainlinks as well?

Teufel Racing

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Dirt webs seem to be a favorite chioce at the local track.
I've ran them a bit and they do work well, rears seem to me to work Better than the fronts for me. They do,need to be broke in, but doesn't seem to take as long as the Bar Codes did or needed.

Chainlinks?
I've ran them too. For my local track, they aren't real good until about half the tread height is gone, then they're pretty good. Can't say for sure if they are better than other options, but they are a solid choice. I think it's a preference thing. I'll probably end up getting a fresh set and try them again and see if I can find a setup that likes them more.

MWilliby

At my local track, OCRC, the preferred tire would be the JC Dirt Webs, or the JC Bar Codes. I race a tlr 22 mid motor with a 7.5 turn sensored motor, and the best tire for me right now is the dirt web. I have them worn down a lot, and they seem to be really good when the track comes in. The dirt webs are really good at most tracks i have gone to, and for me they wear fairly good. I had been running bar codes before using dirt webs, and when they had worn down, they lost all traction, and my car would just spin. When the track is a stickier clay, you can use a slick on both the front and rear of the car. Also, I have ran JC new smoothies at big races like Surf City Classic. They are really good when there are a lot of people racing, especially when top pros are also racing because everybody takes the same line, which gets a blue groove in the track. My favorite tire at the moment is probably the smoothies, but the most consistant tires i run are the dirt webs because i can run my most consistant laps with rhem, and they hqve good side bite and drive out of corners.

Hope this helps anybody that needed help with tire suggestions for an indoor clay track.

kewdawg

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Has anyone had any experience running JC Pressure Points in 4WD Buggy on an indoor clay, semi-damp, slick / dusty track? If so, what front tires did you use?