Thanks guys can't tell a lot of setup right now deployed at moment be home in 2 months just trying to get solutions to try when u get back running D3.5 7.5 stock tranny avid slipper 5600 mah 60c saddle pack x rings grey springs can't remember piston center shock positions on all can't recall bulk head or rear mount
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for Scott class is anybody running a slipper eliminator?
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Originally Posted by joykiller44
(Post 14003549)
for Scott class is anybody running a slipper eliminator?
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Originally Posted by Mac126
(Post 14003477)
Thanks guys can't tell a lot of setup right now deployed at moment be home in 2 months just trying to get solutions to try when u get back running D3.5 7.5 stock tranny avid slipper 5600 mah 60c saddle pack x rings grey springs can't remember piston center shock positions on all can't recall bulk head or rear mount
A 7.5 is a LOT of motor for someone new to this, especially for an outdoor track. Let's start there, and cut back to either a 13.5 or 17.5 (No Boost) until you learn a little more RC based trigger discipline. |
I ran into an issue this past weekend, and I thought I would share. My daughters car kept breaking or popping shock eclips while racing. I just kept blindly replacing them. This weekend, it happened again. Upon inspection, the piston seemed a bit loose on the shaft. So I pulled out a new "kit" piston and checked the fitting and it was much more snug. In fact, the older pistons were literally flopping around. It appears that over time the hole had worn and the piston became sloppy, thus started to torque on the eclips. This caused them to either pop off or break the clips. Also, once this happenes, the shaft may not move up and down correctly, causing additional wear on your hat bushings. Make sure your pistons are snug on the shaft and the shock bushings are good, or you could end up causing yourself much more issues.
Also, there was a guy that did a bunch of shock testing and analysis. He discovered that the biggest impact to shock piston performance was loose and flexing pistons. The kit pistons are not very snug, so I plan to run machined when ever possible. |
Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
(Post 14003630)
I ran into an issue this past weekend, and I thought I would share. My daughters car kept breaking or popping shock eclips while racing. I just kept blindly replacing them. This weekend, it happened again. Upon inspection, the piston seemed a bit loose on the shaft. So I pulled out a new "kit" piston and checked the fitting and it was much more snug. In fact, the older pistons were literally flopping around. It appears that over time the hole had worn and the piston became sloppy, thus started to torque on the eclips. This caused them to either pop off or break the clips. Also, once this happenes, the shaft may not move up and down correctly, causing additional wear on your hat bushings. Make sure your pistons are snug on the shaft and the shock bushings are good, or you could end up causing yourself much more issues.
Also, there was a guy that did a bunch of shock testing and analysis. He discovered that the biggest impact to shock piston performance was loose and flexing pistons. The kit pistons are not very snug, so I plan to run machined when ever possible. http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/kyosho-...kyo96641/p3868 |
Originally Posted by Mac126
(Post 14003099)
Can't seem to get any rear bite car no matter what seems loose in the corners and on the straight running on packed clay but likes to get dusty and slick instantly
Many things can contribute to this. Whats your shock set-up front and rear? Do you have flat front arms up front with the RM front shock tower? Do you have too aggressive front tires? RM rear arms? Battery location? Running ideal rear tires? It could be a combination of those even? |
Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK
(Post 14003650)
i noticed some lash on my rear shocks last weekend (not sure if that's the right word. at the start of the up stroke on the bench i could feel sort of like a delay, hard to explain). took them apart and there was up and down play with the piston on the shaft. i put some kyosho 0.2mm shims on top of the bottom e-clip and it's gone now.
http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/kyosho-...kyo96641/p3868 |
Originally Posted by Mac126
(Post 14003099)
Can't seem to get any rear bite car no matter what seems loose in the corners and on the straight running on packed clay but likes to get dusty and slick instantly
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
(Post 14003630)
I ran into an issue this past weekend, and I thought I would share. My daughters car kept breaking or popping shock eclips while racing. I just kept blindly replacing them. This weekend, it happened again. Upon inspection, the piston seemed a bit loose on the shaft. So I pulled out a new "kit" piston and checked the fitting and it was much more snug. In fact, the older pistons were literally flopping around. It appears that over time the hole had worn and the piston became sloppy, thus started to torque on the eclips. This caused them to either pop off or break the clips. Also, once this happenes, the shaft may not move up and down correctly, causing additional wear on your hat bushings. Make sure your pistons are snug on the shaft and the shock bushings are good, or you could end up causing yourself much more issues.
Also, there was a guy that did a bunch of shock testing and analysis. He discovered that the biggest impact to shock piston performance was loose and flexing pistons. The kit pistons are not very snug, so I plan to run machined when ever possible. TLDR: I'm back to over jumping stuff and flat landing jumps like a champ. |
Originally Posted by onefast8
(Post 14003906)
I battled this for a while. Fairly the same thing. I reused my machined pistons from my b4. They were super wore. Started blowing shocks left and right. Replaced pistons with new machined ones to eliminate piston "wobble" on the shaft. Used some cheap Durango shims to help snug up the vertical slop. Also Kyle@W3 suggested some traxxas eclips that were much stronger. Finally, I noticed the slot in the shaft that the eclip rides in was a little marred (from busting eclips off) so I just replaced them both (love those cheap non-coated shafts @~$5).
TLDR: I'm back to over jumping stuff and flat landing jumps like a champ. |
After running ultra light weight cars for a few weeks I think that I prefer a car closer to 1500 grams. For the first time ever I can say that an AE box setup didn't work at all for me. My lite(s) with severe weight reduction were a handful out of the box and I had to make a lot of changes to make them work on our high traction sugared blue groove. Among the problems I encountered were low grip and not enough steering. As odd as it sounds when I tried to use a heavier battery pack, with no other changes, I lost steering!
I took a different approach with 2 very similar cars. For one, I used Kody N's OCRC set up and the other I used a normal sized pack(4400 vs 3250), added some droop in the front (21.25 mm), went to the outside shock position on the rear arm, and went with a grey spring in the rear. I picked up a second and a half with car 1 and my friend who is a sponsored driver for another company set the TQ and won stock buggy with car 2 (he doesn't have a stock buggy). Granted he's already fast, but he did smoke the field in a car he's never used and beat other friends that are competitive with him. It was an upset. Anyway, when I bought my Lite I was supposed to run it totally out of the box stock and I couldn't do it....I'm going to buy another and try again. Its interesting what you learn by experimenting. |
Originally Posted by QDRHRSE
(Post 14003984)
After running ultra light weight cars for a few weeks I think that I prefer a car closer to 1500 grams. For the first time ever I can say that an AE box setup didn't work at all for me. My lite(s) with severe weight reduction were a handful out of the box and I had to make a lot of changes to make them work on our high traction sugared blue groove. Among the problems I encountered were low grip and not enough steering. As odd as it sounds when I tried to use a heavier battery pack, with no other changes, I lost steering!
I took a different approach with 2 very similar cars. For one, I used Kody N's OCRC set up and the other I used a normal sized pack(4400 vs 3250), added some droop in the front (21.25 mm), went to the outside shock position on the rear arm, and went with a grey spring in the rear. I picked up a second and a half with car 1 and my friend who is a sponsored driver for another company set the TQ and won stock buggy with car 2 (he doesn't have a stock buggy). Granted he's already fast, but he did smoke the field in a car he's never used and beat other friends that are competitive with him. It was an upset. Anyway, when I bought my Lite I was supposed to run it totally out of the box stock and I couldn't do it....I'm going to buy another and try again. Its interesting what you learn by experimenting. |
Anybody have the widths on the JC wheels hexes? Planning on giving the +4 aluminum c mount a shot,and looking for 5mil hexes other than the FT.
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Originally Posted by KAWIDAD
(Post 14004060)
Anybody have the widths on the JC wheels hexes? Planning on giving the +4 aluminum c mount a shot,and looking for 5mil hexes other than the FT.
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