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Kyosho ZX6.6 New Parts (* = required to update ZX6 to ZX6.6 platform)


LA359B - Center Mount Set (ZX6.6)*
LA375 - Center Diff. Gear Set(ZX6.6)*
LA375-01 - Center Diff. Gear Case Set(ZX6.6)
LA375-78 - Spur Gear(48P-78T/ZX6.6)
LA376 - Center Drive Shaft (71.5/ZX6.6)*
LA377 - Center Drive Shaft (79.5/ZX6.6)* (x2)
LA378 - Center Drive Shaft (88/ZX6.6)*
LA379 - Joint Cup Cover (ZX6/ZX6.6)*
LAW54B-01 - HD Chassis*
LA355B - Side guard set*
UM713B - Rear Arms (from RB6)*
UM561 - Outer rear hinge pins*
LA236-12B - 1.2mm Front sway bar*
LA351B 4-hole front shock tower*


Options
VVC Blades TFW126
Spare Blades TFW001-01

Manuals

Lazer ZX6.6
Lazer ZX6

After Market Bodies

JConcepts Silencer

Weight Reduction options for 13.5 Class

Chassis:
UMW711B - Carbon composite rear arms
LAW60 - Carbon composite front upper bulkhead
LAW61 - Carbon composite rear upper bulkhead
LAW52 - Carbon composite front chassis brace
LAW53 - Carbon composite rear chassis brace
LA209HB - Carbon composite gear boxes (pinion bearing retainer & upper gearbox half only, lower half not compatible/saves 4.6g total)
Driveline:
LA211B - Plastic drive cups for center drive shafts coming out of front & rear gear boxes (requires drilling two holes for set screws to secure LA379)
TFW001 - Aluminum blade style outdrives (for ball diff/requires TF013)
LA202 - Aluminum pinion shafts (for ball diff)
TFW126 - VVC outdrives (for gear diff - front/rear/center)
TFW008 - VVC cross pins (for gear diff - front/rear/center)
Misc:
LAB06LW - LW Blade body
SK0402 - Ti screw set (Available at Lunsfordracing.com)
PTK-T-2111 - Ti screw set (cheaper, slightly less durable option)
LNS7765 - Ti ball studs
LNS2688 - Ti Turnbuckles
LNS36107 - Ti Turnbuckles (super duty)
W0201H - Hard anodized lower shock balls
1-N3024A-R - Aluminum M3x2.4 nuts (for shock standoffs)
1-N3033NA-R - Aluminum M3x3.3 locknuts

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Old 12-31-2014, 11:33 AM
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Here is a pic, sorry if its not great. If this doesnt work or readable I can scan it in when I get home ( Currently in PA).
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Originally Posted by Nexus
Anyone actually use "pro-squat" in the rear like in Tebo's setups?

Most of what I've run in the past and currently was always flat or anti-squat. What would pro-squat do for the car or why would one use pro-squat.
From my measurements with 1mm front and 2mm rear the hinge pin angle is zero. Looks like the arm mounts have 1 degree built in anti squat with no shims.
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cool.

Anyone else running 13.5? Gearing? I have been using a 32T and seeing wonderingt what range of pinions guys are running with motor X.
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexus
cool.

Anyone else running 13.5? Gearing? I have been using a 32T and seeing wonderingt what range of pinions guys are running with motor X.

78/21 is what I have been using at LITH.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by golferdude1971
78/21 is what I have been using at LITH.
cool...sorry I meant to say 23 not 32 :P
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Here is a pic, sorry if its not great. If this doesnt work or readable I can scan it in when I get home ( Currently in PA).


Arn0 added this setup to petitrc under low grip base setup if you want to see the actual PDF. Just FYI
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rcgod
From my measurements with 1mm front and 2mm rear the hinge pin angle is zero. Looks like the arm mounts have 1 degree built in anti squat with no shims.
hmmm I wonder if any team Kyosho guys could confirm this. It would be strange because to run anti squat in back you would have to run at least 3mm or more under the front block. I'm not even sure how much clearance there is over it.
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Originally Posted by Nexus
hmmm I wonder if any team Kyosho guys could confirm this. It would be strange because to run anti squat in back you would have to run at least 3mm or more under the front block. I'm not even sure how much clearance there is over it.
No shims gives 1 deg anti squat. So 2mm front nothing rear should give 3 degrees.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:12 PM
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What are everyone's thoughts on 2?
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skyline1015
What are everyone's thoughts on 2?
I'm running gear diffs in my zx6 at critters and seems to be working pretty good. Haven't tried the ball diffs yet.
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Originally Posted by skyline1015
What are everyone's thoughts on 2?
So far I'm liking the balls diffs and no rebuilds after 3-4 race days. I run 13.5 so the wear is not as high as low turn mod motors.

I like the idea of less maintenance with the gear diffs and I run on mostly high traction dirt/clay tracks. Planning to get a set to compare and for sure in the summer when I run on the outdoor carpet track.

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No shims gives 1 deg anti squat. So 2mm front nothing rear should give 3 degrees.

Thanks.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:26 PM
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Hello everyone ... I tested a ZX6 for two weeks ... I only have 3 outputs with this buggy ... for now I am very disappointed ... the car and very fragile ...
for now I broke:
3 front arms
1 rear armas
1 rear hub
1 shocks shaft after collision with another car
And 3 bearing rear hub exploded

local track in turn with 7-10 degrees temperature ... in Italy at this time it's cold. But some friends have hb D413, dex410 and xB4 2015 ... running smoothly breaking ... now I'm wondering where to put the quality kyosho.
Another friend of mine with ZX6 has broken ... we took the kit from futaba pro shop ... are really desperate ... is the first buggy that has these problems ... in 5 years I have never seen anything like it .


I state that I also have a rb6 with I am very well.
I'm really thinking of giving away ZX6 with 30 minutes ride ...
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:14 PM
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If you broke all those parts in 30 minutes, your doing something wrong.
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Originally Posted by potatobed409
If you broke all those parts in 30 minutes, your doing something wrong.
before this buggy I had sworkz s104 and team c ... TM4 not the first buggy that use I assure you ... and for 5 years I do races in Italy ... I might seem safe me..ma of the problem not until I ... just a landing from a jump is not perfect and it breaks ... made of paper kyosho
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:47 AM
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I've been running the ZX6 since it came out and as yet the only thing I've broken is a front wishbone after a full chat crash into a concrete wall thanks to some muppet stopping dead on a straight!

Car is VERY strong in my opinion and I'm in the UK ... cold here at the moment!
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